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Well good news, it turns out the one who was able to fix my PC was my dad and he did a thing that I was not able to. He sent me a video showing that my PC is turning on again with the fans spinning and the CPU working overall again. I am glad that is some good news that I got and man I love him for that.

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3060 for 400$
3070 for 600$
3080 for 800$
3090 for 1400$
Prices Revealed. All seem decentish apart from the 3090

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that’s gonna be pure murder in the Canuck market…times that by 1.5 or more. :frowning:

I must say I don’t quite agree with these prices being decent or even decentish. If they plan to also release a 3050 soon for $250-$300 that is an upgrade to a 2060 I can sort of understand, but I am afraid that Nvidia might just get caught out like Intel did if they keep cranking up the prices like this. I upgraded from a 1060 to a 2060 and was waiting for the 3060 to drop in a bundle with Cyberpunk 2077, but if they are going to up the MSRP by $50 again then that ain’t going to happen. (This is under the assumption that the 3060 will be a small upgrade to the 3060, if it’s a surprising beast it might make sense).

let’s hope Big Navi and / or Big Navi 2 is so good it hurts Nvidia and AMD does what they did to Intel…better product and still undercut by price.

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If they can figure out their driver situation. Then it would be easier to consider and products for the people that have the cash to drop. But and doesn’t really give me much hope considering their current GPU track record, but they have the potential to do the same thing the did to Intel to Nvidia.

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3090 is apparently replacing the titan RTX so that’s a small reduction

yeh…they should create a bigger coding team. that will come as they become more profitable.

funny how drivers have always been an issue for AMD…and for the Radeon graphics, even when they were still ATi.

The Titan Maxwell was $999 MSRP, yes.
Since Nvidia declared the previous high-end price of $350 “midrange” (aka half of the average gamer computer budget), Pumping up the price EVERY FREAKING TIME is acceptable?

With the words of Linus Torvalds:

Fuck You Nvidia!

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I should rephrase, Its resonable for nvidias standards haha

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That was 7 years ago and the only difference between that and a 780ti was VRAM. The Turing Titan was completely different to the 2080ti (being basically a Quadro, that actually started with Volta). So it’s not really comparable.
I don’t know what they’re doing with the 3090 but Titan was always more of a prosumer workstation card, not a gaming card. As a complete guess I would say they created the 3090 as a kind of “ultra tier” gaming card and will push Youtubers and the like to the Quadro lineup.

I am not buying Nvidia cards as much as they are better than AMD in terms of performance. I might have to buy some of AMD’s new cards instead. I know it might not be powerful as Nvidia’s but budget-wise AMD has been friendly to me and not too intimidating for me and I hope if RDNA2 becomes a thing I would surely buy some of their cards with it.

I mean u will most likely get Console graphics to perfmoance either worse or better. Leaning to Better with big navi.

Trying to think through a performance windfall to understand where the bottleneck was and if there is further gains to be had upgrading to a quality USB card.

M/B is a middle of the road MSI MPG Z390M GAMING EDGE.

I was using the SPDIF out for sound, Toslink since that was built in thinking that it was less prone to noise. I do this primarily for convenience as I like having only one default driver for sound and beyond that I can connect multiple DACs. I decided to try switching to USB out, going into a DDC. (LKS) and from there out to a DAC. To my surprise the quality of the sound improved dramatically. Not so much the sound but the lack of noise that I didn’t realize was there before. Well, that’s not even a good way to explain it. The best way I can explain it is that the quiet parts have more authority and thus the parts of the sound that aren’t quiet seem more dramatic. It’s an intangible way to describe it, but it was a dramatic change.

So, my question is… what was the weak link? Was it Toslink? I know it’s inferio, technically but I’m not sure it was the problem as much as poor clocking leading to jitter. I know the principal of jitter, but I didn’t know I had it if that’s the case.

Is the M/B usb a better transport or is my gain coming from simply having a GOOD QUALITY reclocker in the path to clean up the signal before it goes to the DAC?

I’m wondering if there’s additional gains to be had by ditching M/B usb in the first place and buying a quality PCI usb card. I’m not going to plunk $450 on a femto clock card, because I think there’s probably a diminishing return given the benefits I’ve already gained but I’m not adverse to picking up a good USB PCI card for $75 bucks if it will be markedly better than the on board USB.

Is there ANY big product manufacturer that does not do this with new (specially top end) products?
They probably just take advices from Apple. Nvidia is like "Apple has 1000$ for a case, 750$ for wheels? " Shit a top grade graphic card can be anything and sell like hot cakes. :smiley:

I would love to see even one.
Like Samsung would make a flag ship phone, here the best cores and 5g and super camera for 400$. Go!
Probably not but since they all do it, it is acceptable…?

It could just be the built in DAC in the mb isnt all that good. I mean I have no issues with SPDIF on my mobo. The only noice I get is the noise floor from my Amplifier which i get plugged in or not. Usually the USBS on a mobo will be better than CASE usbs. I think the only advantage a PCI usb card give is more controllers per amount of USB’s instead of them all sharing one controller. But then again it could just be your mobo.

Chinese Phone makers… Flagship specs budget prices, Why i love chinese phones so much they are cheap and have amazing specs. But I mean if people still buy it all then the company doesnt care and wont change the pricing. Consumers can only blame themselfs for forking out the money that the company is asking.