Let's talk about computers

You might have not got the point.
If a china top end phone would be 400$ and they release a new one, it will not be dramatically cheaper. More likely higher price than the previous model, as in the example range. It probably would be 430$ and not 350$.

Apple is the best example, specially with computers.

Hmm yeah i can agree there they do get more expencive but thats the market itself getting more expencive. I mean brands are making phones that cost way over £1000 and they never used to. The money is there so things get more expencive

Is it though?
The Titans were always huge pieces of silicon that did nothing but high clocks and CUDA, making it a gaming card in my eyes.
Beause for workstation features you need Quadro or Tesla cards.

Not sure. I have only been following the semi-conductor happenings. And there Nvidia is the first one pushing stupid prices on cheering customers.
Intel got slapped hard for trying the same.
As did AMD now that I think about it. Remember when they dared to price the FuryX the same as Nvidia priced their similar performing card? Oh the hate…

Yes and no. CUDA is what you want for workstation cards…Quadro and Tesla’s just have optimized firmware with more focus for workstation operations than gaming, which is why Nvidia changed their driver EULA saying you couldn’t use GeForce cards for workstation tasks. the GeForce cards were cheaper than Quadro’s and let you get good CUDA performance for workstation stuff as well as secondary use for gaming.

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CUDA is Nvidias “core” architecture, therefor everything including D3D needs CUDA.

With workstation features, I meant features like SR-IOV. Wich on GeForce cards throws you “Error 43” making the card unuseable in a virtualization setup (except when you jump through a lot of hoops).

yup…but the performance from non-Quadro cards was so good that they had to make moves to nip that habit in the bud. I don’t think it’s worked much though… LoL

Yeah but I mean I can’t imagine Nvidia thinking no one is going to use GeForce cards for CUDA and workstation tasks anymore. What is it specifically that you can’t do according to the EULA? I CUDA is the reason why I probably won’t switch over to AMD anytime soon, I spend some time 3D modelling and texturing stuff, and I seriously appreciate CUDA in those applications.

well…for the little and inconsequential customers, that’s true…but for the enterprise clients that have crazy ass projects on the go, it would have an effect, as if you break the EULA, no technical support.

I know my buddy lamented the lack of virtualization support for one of his home lab projects. got him a really good deal on an older high end Quadro and then it was promptly dropped from VMWare’s list of supported GPU, LoL.

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Any sort of datacenter (whatever classifies as such) or virtualization use is forbidden.

Made a few waves in 2018, then everyone stopped complaining because you can’t just re-write all your GPU-accelerated programms from the past 10 years to use OpenCL/GL.


Oh the joys of running a home lab… :face_vomiting:

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I have a WD Elements external HDD and a Windows 10 PC. When the HDD is idle for several minutes, it spins down. It’s taking a very long time to spin back up (wake up?). I have I music files on there, among other things, and that wakeup time, 10-15 seconds, is annoying and can hose things up. I’ve tried changing Windows power settings, but also read online that external drives basically ignore those settings. I’ve tried NoSleepHD but don’t see an install file in its download. I tried downloading WD’s own utilities, and it told me to attach a supported drive. When the drive hasn’t been asleep, it works great. Ideas?

I suspect the settings don’t affect it because it’s an external USB drive. I’m not sure if there’s an elegant solution for that. NoSleepHD’s method of periodically writing data isn’t ideal lol. If you want to use it, the .exe is located here.

nosleephd.zip\sourceCode\sourceCode.zip\NoSleepHD v1.1\NoSleepHD v1.1\NoSleepHD\obj\Release

Yup. That’s my understanding too. Thanks for the exe location though. I suppose it’s worth a shot.

If you’re using a desktop, you could always convert to an internal drive as well. Also some other drive makers will allow to change the sleep behavior

It is a desktop. There’s plenty of room in the case. I’ve been partial to an external for my music files and such. My reasoning - perhaps flawed - is if the computer blows up it won’t fry the drive with all my valuable stuff on it with it. I’ve had that happen before. eSata is another option too. If it continues to be an issue I’ll think more about either of those.

With how cheap internal HDDs are, might aswell grab one and stick that in your computer.

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USB devices do some funky stuff at times

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Intel STINKS of desperation…

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I sold my 3900x to see what the ryzen 4000 series had to offer because im really chasing IPC for high framerate gaming but i want something better total package than what intel is offering. I have a feeling the second i grab a 4900x or whatever intel will finally reveal their 11th gen and actually have something worth it (given 11th gen steps forward in so e wY like its supposed to)

My intel machine has still been the best most stable machine i ever had so its hard for me want amd again.

yikes sounds like your in the waiting game mindset right now, just remember something will always be announced, I have high doubts ryzen will be as goosd as intels new gen for highest frame rates @1080p so honestly you should stick to intel if highest frames are your priority. but if you go to 1440p, 4k , if you look at benchamarks, CPUS dont matter as much and is about the GPU anyway. while currently AMD has better IPC intel will then have the better IPC for another year and it becomes a never ending tug of war.

I do 1440p and it does still matter when youre trying to inch out the frames to stay consistent over 144hz. Right now im cpu bound with a 2080ti. I think intel still has the ipc and speed advantage but i think or hope ryzen 4k is able to up both or better OC than the current offerings. My other huge issue is the the latest ryzen cpus made it “ok” for motherboards to jump to insane prices. Im hoping to get a good deal on a high end x570 board or hope the next series of boards is that much more refined to be worth it.

I also do 1 machine that lasts 5+ years and i want to do a custom loop so yes i am waiting for the perfect platform

true. honestly though bI find at least most of the b550 boards and more lower end x570 boards pricing to be somewhat fair and would take most of them anyday over some of these intel boards which is frankly a bit much for what is being offered intel side board wise now the pcie gen 4 is starting to matter