đŸ”¶ Letshuoer S12

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it’s a chicken or the egg situation idk whether kbear or acoustone did them first but they’re both the same eartip afaik, kbear08s are also the same as accoustone08s

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Acoustune came first.

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how do you know? not doubting you just curious, i’ve had kbear 08s since mid 2020 i think, came with a kbear diamond

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They are an older brand and you can also find people talking about their tips in 2017/2018.

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SCARY how quick you find this info holy shit

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oh lol, I just used google and limited the search to 2017/2018 at the latest.

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Thank you for sharing your impressions. I have the O2 so it’s very valuable since I’m considering the S12. With it being planar and with the supposedly hot treble O would consider for Techno.

Could you listen to those two songs and give your impressions. If you have time to A/B with Oxygen it’s even better
:pray:

A lot of bass and mid bass plus the usually treble that’s present in Techno songs:

This song i consider busy and some iems struggle to keep up:

Thanks a bunch

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Are the aet08 worth getting?
I have the aet07 but they are bit too hard for my ears but i read that 08 are softer.

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Oh? I think they have quite a lot of bass which is good. Not sure how you don’t find them bassy. I think this a bit of V shape, because they are a bit bright too

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I totally agree with what you wrote there. So I guess I won’t be writing a review now because basically I would say same thing.

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Yeah there seems to some mixed opinions on this. They have bass, but I don’t hear as much sub-bass extension as the Oxygen. This is reflected in the FR measurements from different reviewers: HBB’s graphs show S12 to have more bass than the O2, but MRS’s show the opposite. Michael Bruce taped the vent to get “damn fine bass.” I guess YMMV huh?

@mmkzero what do you think of S12’s bass? Your initial impressions didn’t mention the quantity just the quality. Thanks!

@thoohil I just remembered that you tried taping the vents! Did you end up keeping this mod or did you go back to stock?

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I’ll check after work. From memory, the AET08 have a smaller bore, smaller (diameter) of stem, and thinner stem. I had to finangle it onto the S12 nozzle. The thinner stem might make them “softer” than AET07.

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So it is my understanding that the S12 is good and well worth the money but not as good as the Timeless I n the world of iems they are bargains but let be honest they are close enough in price that buying one over the other is not a cost based decision,

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I defer to @nymz’s post: The Tea Party - nymz's opinions and experiences sharing/discussion - #1248 by nymz

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I went back to stock. The S12 is the perfect generalist IEM. When I’m in need for sub-bass therapy I use my ISN H40 or the Moondrop Variations.

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Ooh yeah the ISN H40 are a nice warm set right? nice!

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nice and warm indeed

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Has anyone compared the s12 to the P1 Plus?

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Yes. I’ve had both. It’s a bloodbath in favour of s12

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S12 arrived today and currently listening to them as I type so very early impressions.
I have an OG Timeless (de-grilled/filtered) and a 2nd gen Timeless (stock).
Early thoughts are the S12 is slightly cooler in presentation probably due to the steeper pinna and extended upper frequency and it has a smidge more mid-bass but less sub-bass
but it’s all rather marginal.
At this very early stage I’d say I still prefer my straight-piped OG Timeless but prefer the S12 to the filtered 2ng gen Timeless but will do further listening over the weekend to confirm my initial thoughts.

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