Thanks, screwy that the last 55 miles took longer than the first 7200.
I might have to try that mod, but I am enjoying the extra energy and sound stage, and that it isn’t exactly like the Timeless. I am guessing some people will be that way on the Olina vs Oxygen comparisons too.
I’m listening to the S12 with true bass on via ifi zen DAC. Lootttss of bass. So the potential is there!
Edit: Listening to Why so serious? (The Dark Knight Rises OST), and at 3:26, jesus that sub-bass is so much I felt slightly nauseated. Again, with “bass boost” on. I hope I don’t get this amount with taped vents because it’s too much haha
After some weeks I managed to get some hours of usage of S12.
Fit is still very tricky for me - I need to wiggle around with L CP100 to achieve some seal that I tend not to feel completely at times. I am waiting for Azlas sedna though to see if that would be better. It is minor thing objectively in general often overlooked in reviews, but usability is very limited for me as compared to Teas which are literally plug and play. For my usage it is critical as I tend to need to take out the earpiece very often (my wife likes to talk to me with particularly increased frequency when she sees me listening to music…). She is also the reason why comply tips are no go for me.
Power requirements - initially I thought it needs more juice than usual as in Q1 DAP I tricked myself to believe bass is better and not cutting off on high gain, but it was probably brain fart with not matched volume. Today I took CX-Pro and iPad and it sounds great as it is with volume at 50% (it has max 65mW at 32 ohm, so nothing special).
Sound impressions - it is great set for critical, but also casual listening. Bass is planar like fast and tight. It is present, but kind of empty, lacking DD-like body. Not as bad as BA, because it has some sub bass and is very detailed and textured, but not for bassheads. I love female vocals out of it (especially warm like Norah Jones), but I love them in general. Treble is quite splashy though for a lack of better word. Details are great, but soundstage is nothing special (as compared to Tea at least - see the Idler Wheel album by Fiona Apple, where soundstage recorded is enormous).
Generally 9,5/10 - definitely a keeper set for alternative listening session to Tea/headphone. Cable is built great as well, but my be a little bit less stiff for my taste
Glad you guys raving on it 
Well, it needs the true bass on to have that sub-bass rumble. But I’m legit feeling nauseated right now, so too much sub-bass haha. Michael Bruce said he thinks this is a good quality driver that handles EQ like a champ, so I guess that option is always available for those interested. I prefer hardware vs software solutions, so let’s see what vent mod does!
Yap, we played together with EQ and he got what he wanted spot on! Planars love EQ
That is very true, I was even able to put back the recessed spot on the he400se and they are really amazing headphones with the mids restored.
I found this to be my biggest issue with the S12. Ended up with L CP145.
I did. It’s good for 50$, pairs and drives S12 well. Just need 2.5mm terminated cable.
If you want balanced the S12 can be ordered with 4.4mm, but not the 2.5mm the DT02 DAC uses.
That seems goofy to me, Shuoer should get that figured out, but was resistant to a 2.5mm cable. I bought an adapter, and am not sure how I feel about that.
Aloha, everybody!
I’m new here and probably don’t have much knowledge regarding H-ifi equipments as you guys do, but I’m here now 
I would appreciate any information that can help me decide between S12 and 7Hz timeless.
I listen to music of several different genres, mostly classics(Piano, concertos,etc.), but also jazz and folk(Eva Cassidy, Joan Baez) and I’m also big fan of Tori Amos, Cyndi Lauper and the Chicks.
I currently own Creative Aurvana Air, Etymotic Er2XR and BD Dt 990 Pro.
I really enjoy Air and BD, but found Er2 lack of sound stage really irritating.
Recently I was offered Brand new S12 and Timeless with just 15$ difference, which is nothing.
So here comes the hundred dollar question: Which one should I own?
Thanks a bunch.
Hello and welcome to hfgf!
If money was a variable, I’d instantly say S12, but since they are basicly the same price for you, lets ignore that fact. Between them:
Timeless pros: slightly less bright around 8k hz (mid treble) which makes the tuning more balanced, maybe an hair more of sub-bass.
S12: better stage (still not insane, but better), better imaging, fit, build quality.
Hope this helps!
I have both & I’d say that’s a pretty spot on analysis of the 2.
Thank you both for the reply. 
Just when I decided to get S12, I saw the Mangird Tea, yes, you read it correctly.
For some reason, I found myself able to afford it as well.
Then I did some reading, which seems the revised Tea sounds bit differently and not in a good way?
So should I still get it?
Also can you test some classical/orchestral music on the two and do a bit comparing(doesn’t have to be too much in-depth)?
Hope I’m not asking too much 
It seems a very costly journey I’ve just started.
Cheers!
Shuoer s12 VS Aladin vs timeless? Pros & cons
Im out to catch some sun, but I can do it later. Mangird Tea is my jam 
I can do that as well, but wasnt that discussed ealier already?
