If it was at 24/96 I could live with it, but being locked out of 24 bit is just annoying and limits me for a decent part of my library if I use exclusive mode
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ah, fair. I havent been super active here so I may have jus missed it.
Oh, thats quite interesting (and kinda opposite what I have heard before this). TBH, I really just want to demo the entire audeze line
Looks like I should hunt down a pre-fazor. Any prefrence on 2.1 vs 2.2? also, interestin on the MX/Z over the standard. I had just assumed they were held back versions of the 4 tbh. Really do want to get my hands on a 24 tbh but I hate buying new so wont happen but by chance most likely.
NM-1 is from another wierd russian brand. One of the guys im in a chat group with says they are pretty well loved in russia forums and oft compaired to OG 1266, but th creator refuses to send to pople for reviews, and most of the russian sites dont play well with translate, so not much more than a mildly pique curiosity at this point.
As for the 8kp and 909, those are real up there on my to aquire lost right now. Ultimately need to thin out my herd a bit (and purge some mid-fi I impulse bought, lol) before I move on.
It may have been the cans I was using too. For some reason I find the ibasso SR-2s (great timbre in that can btw) dont play super well with higher power output, so maybe it was them being fucky that was masking stuff when I compaired directly.
They seem to be actively working on FW at least, so I have fairly high hopes. Much higher than AK actualy adding roon support at leastā¦
Thats very fair. I asked because even compaired to similarly priced over ears I think the MSRP is justified and well priced IEMs was the topic at hand.
Its a real weird one tbh. Lots of tip rolling was needed for me, but realy what got me was the strange staging and just how dynamic it was. Overall made it a fantastic all arounder and daily driver. Pretty well everything else I use has a somewhat specific use case or just doesnāt do detail like at all, so it performing well basically everywhere and not realy loosing any detail was quite a nice touch.
Interesting those are the three you bring up. TBH, I see a ton fo talk about how the IEM market is just changing and advancing so fast (and I dont exactly have a long experience in IEMs to refute the idea). Does that mainly just apply to the lower end of the market? TBH, most of the shit Iām interested in IEM wise is fairly new, but thats also probabaly largely due to where the chatter is focused anyways. Ill have to give all 3 a good look
Thats my hope. I have been on the egds of paring down for 2-3 cans and 2-3 IEMs (or more of just upgrading my IEMs) recently but I realy wanted some good sources to truly hear shit on first. Hopefully within the next month ill have a pretty solid idea of what i want to keep and what i dont (I think I already have a pretty solid idea tbh)
Is there even good enough availability in the portable amp market to realy play like this portable? It seems like there is very little with even vaugely decent power in terms of over ears (Micro BL, BX2, C9, and that warm SE lessfox are all I can think off unless im underestimating the chimera/wa8/wa11 driving power). I would love to play with amp pairing, but it kinda seems like that wont be in my future unless I can get a permanent desk setup
Speaking of higher sample rates. I littleraly cant find it anywhere. What is the limit on the p6 pro? 384?
2.2 preferred but the 2.1 isnāt bad either, just make sure itās a pre fazor lol
They trade blows, from a technicality perspective, equal detail, less raw impact but better overall control than the 4, less forward than the 4, spatially wider and more immersive but a bit less sharp imaging, a bit worse timbre but better tonal balance overall, better extension over the 4, and they feel dynamically superior to the 4. It will really come down to preference and what amps are being planned
Donāt buy it new lol, used they typically go for under 1.8k when they pop up
Interesting
Ah I actually tried the same headphones on the bl, and that sounded a fair bit too bloated and mushy for my preferences, too much lol, like a cleaner source there, although they did slam pretty hard on the bl
lol
I can see them being a good daily without going overboard
Yes very true
It applied to both, there have been big leaps forward in high end iems and then also a massive boom with chifi iems so both ends have been pushing forward pretty well
Yes since some things may change much more than you would expect depending on the source, so thatās a good idea for sure
You are, it just depends on the headphones at hand, you donāt really need all that much power unless the headphone is actually demanding for it. Itās like the d8000 pro are actually not all that amp picky and donāt need much power to get going, even though at first glance you might think they would (fantastic pairing with the p6 btw for a portable planar esp with an add on amp) but a diana really is a hungry and picky headphone
From my tests I can play up to 24/384, and I have gotten DSD256 files to play (but not 512)
Good to know. I may come back and bug you about mx vs z at some point seeing as they will hae to be on something like a BX2 or similar.
yuuuuup. Even the open box ones are still $2400 or so (Ive asked before) and no way in hell im taking that big of a chance on that can with like no info on it when im already pretty happy with an X. Hate buying new in audio for the most. The loss off the bat is damn near worse than cars.
Yah, woth a look if your google-fu is better than mine. They are only like 1600 USD AFAIK too, but there is litteraly 0 english info on them that I can find.
These are actualy one of the few mid-fi cans that have realy shocked me. They realy dont sound impressive off the batt at all IMO, but then I kinda realized its just cause they dont realy do anything wrong from what I can tell. Certainly a far shout preferable to the 2Cs and X00 PHs (though that may not be fair to X00)
Ah, ok. So I wasnt really reading it wrong as much as just that the TOTL stuff has some staying power im assuming? It certainly seems to in over ears at least
That easy to drive nature is actualy one of the reasons I am specificaly interested in the d8kp. Ultimately, and this may just be something I have to get over for the next step up, I dont realy want to carry a second device if it doesnt give me better power than the dap its self. Maybe I need to just start thinking āThis can isnt worth it without this amp cause flavorā and stopping thinking āthis can is a no go without this amp because i dont have enough powerā
Yah. I think ima eventualy pick up a bx2plus purely so I can try out diana tbh.
Good to know
Can agree, they kinda are just overall pleasing that most wouldnāt have many qualms with, nice fun sound that isnāt too amp picky either. I do really like the 2c and the ph but I think in your case, the micro bl is not giving you the sound you are after, and also those headphones donāt really seem all that up your alley (from what I have seen)
So the totl stuff does have staying power for iems, but there are also new totl designs that some significantly exceed the quality of what was capable a few years ago, imo they are just now starting to hit the point where there arenāt as massive performance jumps for the new flagships vs the old each year, as much as there were in the past for iems
Power is a factor yes, but for others it will simply come down to the specific qualities of the amp and the quality of power. For example, while the d8kp gets better punch and impact from the lessfox, I actually liked it more on the stock p6 because it became too forward and aggressive with the lessfox imo and stage feels wider on the p6 (the nature of the pro is already more forward neutral v, with a more intimate stage and good impact already), so I wanted to focus a bit more on expanding that stage and getting a bit better timbre and calming them down a bit. For the utopia though, even though itās not really a power hungry headphone, it ended up benefiting from the lessfox with a more precise stage, more detail retrieval, and a tighter and faster sound that was more dynamic. So it more comes down to synergy. But donāt get me wrong there will be headphones that do really benefit from the raw power factor, but I will typically much rather have higher quality power to higher quantity power (to me the bx2 plus is a good example of a balance with a slight power lean, but itās more optimized for headphones than iems)
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Have this combo as well, and itās pretty darn impressive for a portable rig
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Do you guys have a noticable volume difference between high and low gain? Iām using BT currently -> 4.4 to 2.5 adapter -> mest and the high low gain select does nothing. 1 vol is pretyy loud tbh
I do notice a difference, though itās definitely not as significant as Iāve experienced with other players.
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Does the bt volume work different than local? Im still waiting on my SD card to arrive and Iāve been using bt only
I actually havenāt tried BT yet, so Iām not sure. Iāll have to give it a try.
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I donāt use BT at all on stock or Pro. The DAP has internal memory too, so you should try loading some files directly to it.
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Thats my plan but my sd card hasnāt arrived yet (my old one was dead it turns out). Plus, tbh, I use BT a lot for misc listening (stuff like listening to voice chats or occasionally watching youtubr) so decent volume over BT would be niceā¦
Also, I havent had a change to load to internal memory yet. My plan is to do that thus afternoon
Ok, so just got music on the internal storage. The volume is indeed just kinda high on the lowest setting on my mests 
It definitely has a lot of juice.
I think I am listening between Low Gain Vol 1-10 on my Infinity MK2 that is 109dB/mV at 12.5 ohm.
I wonder if IEMatch may help?
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Kind of annoying to have to use an iematch with a 4k dap tbh. That said, i do possibly just listen very queit. So far my only source that gets quet enough for me is the hugo2 and I canāt tell if shit is just loud or if maybe I like super quiet. The micro BL, honey H1, and qudelix could all get a decent bit lower for my tastes
Anyone have a LPGT that can compair minimum volume?
Wow thatās pretty quiet. I was trying to think of why you were getting too much volume, but if you listen that quiet most things will cause you problems. I would try an iematch like @Veritas said on ultra mode and see how that goes (for most of your stuff). It could also be that you have hotly mixed/mastered music perhaps but idk
Well fuck. Is it realy? Most of the time 1 vol on the p6p will be fine on the mests, but laying in bed listening (probabaly my favorite listening of the day) I feel like its blowing my ear drums out. Maybe Iāll grab a db meter and see what level I like to listen at
From memory, the mests are very sensitive, so that could be the culprit there
Edit: yeah 118db is pretty damn sensitive, more sensitive than any iem I own, with an impedance of 14 ohms as well so I wouldnāt be surprised if you donāt get much range
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Oh, wow. Far far more than I expected. 14ohm 118db/mw (not much better than Andromeda). Nannas are far less so (60ohm 100db/mw). Ill see how those fair when i get home. Gunna be a damn shame if thatās the issue given how much Iām liking these things
Andros are low impedance but their sensitivity was below 100 iirc
Good idea
I think the most sensitive iems I have (I think) are the hyla sarda at 7 ohms and 111db sensitivity and those donāt cause me issues but I donāt have as much range as other iems