Luxury Precision P6/P6 Pro R2R DAP

I mean used you can typically find wa8 around 1.2k and I think that’s pretty justifiable, new it’s a bit tougher pill to swallow but it’s still feasible I guess. You are getting a quality product though

Pretty much, although it also depends on what type of sound signature you are after, the woo is a bit more smooth and relaxed neutral leaning where the phatlab is a bit more noticably warmer fun imo, but the phatlab does have improved technicalities

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Thank you. It was such cool tech at the time it was announced, all the reviews were positive, then I stopped hearing about it almost entirely. The novelty of portable tubes isn’t quite so unique any more, so it fell off of my radar pretty fast but it’s something I had added and removed from my shopping cart many times in the past

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It’s probably because it’s a real stretch to call it portable, as it’s not really something to be used on the go, but moreso taken along in a bag to be used from desk to desk on a trip or for work. That’s probably what kinda reduced the hype for it after it came out

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An update on me thinking the P6P is way too loud at min volume. I got a dB meter yesterday and with ear cups sealed my desired listening volume on Focal Clear is 45-50 dB. So it would seem it is just a me problem, not a P6P problem :+1:

That is low. Though, I’ve found that laying down at night, I wouldn’t mind a little more play in the volume control. Low gain on the Rai Penta, I use the minimum volume and would turn it down a touch if I could. Normal listening I might get up to around 10. Was surprised when I plugged in the PortaPros yesterday and had to turn it up to over 30 on low gain. And yes, PortaPros sound great on it…about to pull out the KSC75s today since I haven’t tried that combo yet.

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KSC75 are surprisingly good on it lol, but the ksc75 scale really well already, they have no business being able to scale that high

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Yah. I had to get an IEMatch for mest, and even with it I will listen at like 5 or so on low gain out of 4.4

Ive heard MH775 are the same. Should be getting a set in soon from a friend in the UK as well.

So… TIL the P6P comes with a screen protector… I didn’t realize the bottom of the case lifts out for accessories so ima have to check when I get home to see if mine has that in there. Also, apparently there is a bag for ot? May start using that when its not in use. I was so excited to get into using this thing I didn’t even know it had accessories…

haha…yep, and there’s a quick start guide in there with (a little) helpful info

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Ok. Just a couple updates on the P6P since I want to talk about it.

General thoughts

  1. I am now convinced I can reliably hear BT vs internal storage. That said, I dont know if it is the resampling of android that I am hearing or the actual BT transmission its self, but there is a notably blacker background on local files and a dash of a sharper feeling to notes (maybe because of the backer background). This is particularly noticeable when using LO to an amp (and mind you, when I say “particularly” I mean it took me a month of 4+ hours a day to pin down…)
  2. I admittedly dont understand synergy too well, but there are some serious synergy issues with the P6P 4.4 → focal clears. They feel closed in, congested, and maybe even dark? That last one isnt used in the typical FR meaning, but the sound just reminds me of being “dark”. This is completely remedied by using my Mass Kobo 428 in LO mode though, and in fact, with this combo, I am starting to think I may actually enjoy it more than my hugo 2 (my previous top spot) for clears.

P6P → Mass Kobo 428 Vs Hugo 2

Obviously having a much cleaner and faster amp stage with the P6P/428 combo there are some gains there, but far more so than that it is the increase of the stage dynamisms (P6P/428 combo is much better at the intermediate distances away from you as opposed to just kind of “close and far” with the H2) with the trade off of some image clarity and total stage. I personally prefer this trade off over the H2 as it makes my music feel much more dynamic (onto this later). While the Hugo 2 is, what I feel to be, a polite listen with no offense and good capabilities, the P6P/428 combo is much more willing to get aggressive and agro as needed (a trait of each that holds across several cans). The last trait is kind of a combo of the previous two. Micro detail in the H2 (especially ones hidden in high dynamic range) gets brought up and kind of played on the table in front of you. With the P6P/428 (and even just P6P by its self on IEMs) those details get their own portion of the stage sometimes being easier to miss and sometimes being right in your face. IMO, these traits are very much so appreciated for when I want to focus on the music and have to hold my attention (think I may prefer the H2 for office style listening though) making me feel like I’m listening to music with the P6P while with the H2 I feel like I’m listening to music as presented by chord

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My quick start guide was in chinese. I do have a screen protector as it turns out though, I will try and apply that this weekend most likely

ok. The ‘Update library’ button seriously needs to not be on teh home screen. I hit it at least once a day (typicaly my headphone cable brushing against the screen) for it to take 5+ min to read the SD card again.

Mine shuts down and I have to hard boot if I mistakenly try to update now that the library is in the neighborhood of 12k songs…really hoping some of it can be resolved with the next firmware update

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No clue how many songs I have on mine (maxed a 512 card with flac, so a fair few), but it doesnt crash at least. Just takes forever.

On the plus side, still sounds as great as ever

Haven’t maxed my 512 card, but mostly CD quality 16 bit Flac, so not memory hog files. And yes, this thing pushed me to move entirely (trans)portable.

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Loving this dap so far after listening to it for a while. Everything sounds so good on it, really surprised. Sardas sound amazing on this. Didn’t expect to see a lot of my music scale this much lol, even with low fidelity music. Not of fan of how limited the software is but the sound was 100% worth the hassle

Now to contemplate whether I really need another IEM to complement my Sardas…

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Glad you are enjoying it :+1:, it is a pretty damn nice dap and will really elevate things overall. Also glad you are liking the sarda, it’s a very fun pairing with the lp

Yep biggest problem but the sound makes up for it for me lol

Lots and lots of options out there

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This is really a fantastic combo. Sardas scale so well and it was my first IEM that opened my eyes and made me take IEMs seriously. It does treble and bass is handled well enough to shine with any modern music. This can be endgame for most people – definitely some of the best bass I’ve heard, especially with texture.

Like M0N said though, there are certainly some interesting choices beyond Sarda and the rabbit hole can get deeper (but sound better). For me, Sarda was the start of an interesting journey, but one with pieces that I enjoy more than headphones.

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Definitely is, exactly the reason why I bought the p6p in the first place lol

Absolutely agree here, the Sardas completely changed my trajectory from desktop/headphones to portable/IEMs

Man when I got them for the first time I couldn’t believe that bass had this much texture to it – and when I tried them on some tracks with great percussion, the sound they produced was absolutely unreal to me

I never had to make any other major purchases ever since I got the Sardas (except for the p6p of course), and I’ve been using them actively for the longest time out of everything else I had in my collection. The only reason why I’m considering other IEMs is because I always discover new music from widely differing genres very rapidly and I just wonder if there’s something else that’s more up to the task

I feel like I’m at an interesting point where I could just end my journey here. I don’t really think that would happen tbh, I love music too much to not want to enhance my enjoyment of it even further. But even if that’s just a fleeting dream, I hope I’ll be able to at least enjoy listening to the Sardas at some of their highest potential for quite a while longer before I go deeper. And I’m definitely prepared to go deeper if I wanted to now that I have this dap

One thing I can be absolutely sure of though is that I won’t be going back to headphones for a very long time lol

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Makes sense, the sarda isn’t exactly the best all rounder for me personally, there are def other iems that cover a different base that are worth picking up (you can also go higher and get rewarded for it of course)

Yep, you aren’t going to have to worry about having lacking source gear or anything lol, just focus on synergy at this point for the type of sound you are going for

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