I think thatās pretty much the consensus. The Argons are really good for the price, but they canāt compete with higher-end cans. They have been a little over-hyped by reviewers. Though, like I said, for the price, they are hard to beat.
I think its the fact that they have a more unique sound signature compared to other offerings in the bracket, which excites reviewers or long time enthusiasts since just above average performance gets boring if you have to hear different similar cans constantly, so it seems overhyped to the average person
Itās really not that unique. Modded m1060s and m1060Cs sound awfully similar. ThieAudio Phantom is similar.
I think most people are impressed at just how different they sound than normal T50s. Itās a hell of a mod, but when you hear people comparing it to $700+ headphones, you know they have lost their minds.
I wouldnāt say its similar to modded m1060ās (although have not heard modded cās). The hype did take off before the phantoms existed, so that is something to take note of. It is a different fun sound, but I would also agree that some of the comparisons that are being made I would take with a grain of salt lol
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Wow, you guys are smart!
Hi,
I bought mine on May 14 and waited patiently for 9 weeks, at approximately 9 weeks I received the mail of my order had been sent.
I sent an email to know the tracking number, They answered me and I could do the tracking, but my surprise is that instead of sending them to Mexico they sent them to some part of Germany, I sent them an email again to know if the Guide number was correct because I had encountered that problem and they told me that they were going to investigate.
It has been more than 12 days of which I have not received a response from them and I have sent them 2 emails and I remain unanswered by them.
I have almost lost my money, because if modhouse does not answer the emails, the less they will want to make a refund or something similar.
About the shipment, it was the one proposed by the same page since it does not have several international shipping options such as ups or fedex.
Sorry for my bad writing in English.
UPTADE 2/10/19
I have already received a mail from modhouse, they tell me that the problem with my headphones was due to an usps error, since their system cuts the address when it is large, so I cut the destination country.
So they already offered me to resend them to another shorter address or return the money. Obviously I have chosen to send them again.
oof, what a record. Definitely gonna blast some funky smooth soul when the argons arrive.
Hi Ernesto!
Welcome to the forum! Your English is fine!
I would maintain contact with them and Iām sure they will try to make everything right. My impression of Modhouse is that they are poor communicators, very busy, and not out to take advantage of anyone.
Please keep us updated!
Iām sorry if someone has already answered this question but I couldnāt find it. (Probably because itās a silly question) but I was looking at buying these and Iām a wee bit confused as to what the difference is between the stock cable and the balanced for 30 more bucks. They say they change the inside of the headphones themselves so does that mean if I bought a third party cable I couldnāt use it with these? Also is it an xlr ended cable or a balanced 3.5? 2.5? I are confuse. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Not necessarily a silly question.
They re-wire the headphone to utilize balanced connection. So you can use it as unbalanced or a balanced cable and amp.
Any comptable unbalanced cable will work fine for unbalanced use. If you want to use it with a balanced connection you need to use a balanced cable (XLR is the most common connection). Without the balanced mod, the balanced connection option isnāt there.
You could also always opt for balanced xlr and get an adapter to take xlr down to 3.5 mm or 1/4 inch unbalanced so you can use one cable for both balanced and unbalanced
Oh ok thank you. So if I have a smsl stack (su-8, sh-8) Iām pretty much dumb if I donāt opt for the balanced add on.
Well, you would just be missing out on the best from your amp
Hey, just wanted to unlurk to say thanks for the vibrant discussion on the Argons, even though the more realistic commentary has started just as Iām rounding into week 9 or so of my wait for the Argon T60RPā¦ Oh, well!
Iām running a Mayflower ARC and have been concerned I basically need to be on high gain / dial nearly all the way full to truly enjoy my X2s. As impedance goes up and wattage goes down, it doesnāt necessarily mean the volume will be linearly lower, right? In other words, if my amp drives roughly 1w @ 32 ohm (X2), and 500mW @ 50 ohm (upcoming Argons), that doesnāt mean itāll be half as loud at its maximum, right?
Has anyone tried argonās on an amp with 5-8 wpc at 50 ohm? Id love to know if itās worth going in for a basx (it would give me an excuse to buy some passive bookshelves for once, even though i love my adam t5vās) if it changed the sound signature enough, and to a benefit. I know many people have claimed that the basx specifically (bridged ofc) can bring out alot of good qualities in headphones. Ive even heard people claim 58xās and hd 600ās almost magically have bass and soundstage but hey, maybe im being to skeptical.
Iāve tried the argons in something that puts out 5wpc pure class a into 50 ohm, and they do take well to lots of power. I have also heard it on the basx, and that does really help it reach their maximum. Regarding the 600 or 58x claim, that doesnāt happen with my amps, as the 58x really isnāt that picky about amps and really doesnāt need that much power. The 600 does get better with a better amp, but I wouldnāt say it vastly increases the soundstage unless you have it on an otl tube amp. Also the 58x already has plenty of bass imo when you compare it to the 600. Bass response does get a bit better on the 600 with more power
Without getting too complicated, double power is only around 20% louder to the human ear and yes when impedance goes higher wattage drops, but you also have to take into account that the argons can be harder to drive to get their maximum vs the x2ās which donāt really care about their amp as much. The headphone impedance and sensitivity play a role in determining volume and drivability, but more power to the argons also improves the headphone overall, and while you might be able to get loud enough on a specific amp, it might not sound as good as something that is able to provide more power, because volume isnāt everything. To get to very loud volumes with the argonās (theoretically) you would want at least 3.16 Vrms of voltage and 63.2 mA of current which is around 199.71 mW, but this doesnāt mean it will sound itās best at this lower power. Lower impedance headphones like the argons benefit from more current, so adding more current will improve the experience. For example the emotiva basx a100 can output 425 mA of current at 47 ohms and around 8.5 watts with the jumpers removed. This will really benefit the agrons
So I would say that you would probably be under powering the argons, but I would just wait until you get them to see if thatās true. I have not used the argons with a mayflower amp, so I donāt know for sure.
I appreciate it! With Mayflower having their own T50RP mod itās my hope their source gear plays well with it, given the size and convenience of the headphone & mic jacks, but Iām deathly afraid of being disappointed in the Argon when it finally arrives due to underpowering itā¦
Tfw itās arrived but you gotta wait another two hours because rural mail
The wait is now killing me
Tfw itās been 13 weeks and I havenāt gotten a shipping notification nor a response to my ETA email.
I feel, uhh, concerned.