Hello All
I’ve had my T-60 Argons for a couple years now and with the hope of helping someone decide wether or not to take the 14 week leap of faith, here are my thoughts.
First, a bit about my system. I currently use my T60s with a Schitt Gungnir Multibit and Burson 3x Soloist fed by USB from either my Fiio M11 Plus or laptop. Overkill I know, but I’ll speak to that later. The T60s at my desk and Campfire Andromedas on the go comprise 100% of my listening these days.
So as not to bury the lead I’ll say first, I adore my T60s. They deliver an engaging live sound I can listen to for hours and hours across any genre. The T60s deliver accurate stunning dynamics and detail up and down the frequency range presented in a wide deep soundstage that wraps from one side to the other.
The bass reaches deep, accurately delivering punch or hum as the music demands. It’s not intentionally elevated or enhanced, probably fair to call it linear leaning, but it so thoroughly fills the presented soundstage that I have never felt it lacking on any track. I can pick out every lovely thump of an upright bass and 808s slam as they should on a trap banger.
Mids float effortlessly over the lower range. Clear and without intrusion from below, trumpets, guitars, male vocalists all take center stage. I’d say T60s are mid forward and the mids are the star of the show. Great natural tone and timbre from instruments and they can deliver plenty of bite on synths or other electronica that live in this range.
Now when I first read in this thread complaints about the highs being harsh or sibilant I was a little shocked, but after some thought on it I have two conclusions. One, I suspect I’m on the not so treble sensitive side, maybe a four or five out of ten if ten is super sensitive, and two, it sounds like your amp may play a big role in smoothing out the highs.
I, shocker I know, really love the sparkling, engaging, dare I say bright, top end. They’d be a dark warm can If they didn’t bring along a whole lot of detailed shimmer and sparkle up top. Pianos and female vocalists cut through the mix like they should, not overbearing in the slightest, but very clear and textured.
The real magic of the T60s, what lets each frequency range breathe and come through without intrusion, is its soundstage. It’s not enormously sweeping like a massive hall. It presents the music like you’re at a private concert held in an excellent midsize local venue that’s got the PA system and acoustics absolutely dialed. The instruments/sounds get to layer and coexist very naturally around you and the cans retain the impact and energy of a closed can by being, well, closed! Phenomenal imaging let’s you point your ears right to each sound. While not quite to the holographic level of my andromedas, it’s pretty shocking how close the T60s get.
Obviously, I’m a huge simp for my beloved T60 Argons, but now let’s talk reasons I might look at other options based on your preferences.
First, like we touched on earlier, if you know you’re very treble sensitive these might be a bit too bright up top for you. Now I think they are far from sibilant, and I wouldn’t even call them very bright, so if you’re not sure or just a tad treble shy I think you’ll be okay. You also have little to worry about with the highs if you’re going to be feeding them with a baller amp and DAC. I never had any issues with the highs the years I ran them off my old M11 pro before I got my desktop setup, but what others have said in the thread about beefier amplification helping smooth over the high makes a lot of sense. They’re picky easy to get loud, but hard to drive well cans. (If that sounds like nonsense just remember voltage,current, and resistance are not a simple 1:1 more power make loud go, they’re relationships that affect one another in ratio, electrical amplification is complex physics) Additionally, one reason you buy a high end DAC, while totally unnecessary, is to present greater treble detail without any harshness or sibilance, so that helps too. In summation, the highs out of my Burson and Gungnir are to my tastes immaculate, but I could imagine them being a tad bright for someone else’s taste.
The other thing I’d be aware of is if you’re going to run these off a more mid-fi or budget system to start out they’re not going to be mega over the top bass cannon slam your soul out of your skull cans. They’ve got loads of quality accurate bass that reaches deep, but if you are a self proclaimed bass head, understand that the bass is something that’ll fill out as you give them more amps to suck up. I do remember wanting more bass from time to time back in my m11 pro days. With the Burson I have zero complaints, but let’s call a spade a spade. The Burson is an 1100 dollar amp well regarded for filling out the low end of headphones with more quantity and impact while retaining accuracy. Now, I think this is less of a dealbreaker than being really treble sensitive. If you find you want more low end on your system, EQ or bass boost away. Argons with a fat bass boost are likely a way better sounding headphone than most cans that are way over done down low to begin with, certainly in the same price neighborhood. Then rest easy in the knowledge that as you build up to your dream system they’re going to keep filling out down low with good amp pairings. (By all reports, the new custom xenon pads and baffle mod bring them very close to T50 argon bass so I’d just get these if the bass had you on the fence)
The last reason I might explore other options is the nature of the value proposition.
The thing is, if you know you’re sub 500 dollar stack is where you’ll be sticking for a long long time or it’s your personal end game (nothing wrong with that, stacks in that range are unbelievably good these days) then I don’t know if Argons really sound like a 1000 or 1500 dollar headphone on a mid-fi stack. In this case, I’d consider maybe instead of copping Argons and waiting 14 weeks, save up more money for 14 weeks and get an Arya or used LCDx or any number of actual 1000-1500 dollar cans that are going to absolutely slay on your system. Now don’t get me wrong. On my M11 pro back in the day or my M11 plus now they sound awesome for sure, and I bet I’d love them on a intro shitt stack, but time is money!
What’s mind blowing about my Argons is they are the cheapest part of my desktop system, and I don’t feel they’re remotely a limiting factor. My andromedas are over double the price and I love them too, but at home it’s almost always T60s out of my desktop system. I should and will critical listen with the andros more, but I’ve just been too enamored with the T60s since the desktop system came together many months ago. It’s like they’re intended to be fed by a 2k system. They fully leaped in sound quality each time my components improved, scalability is what is so silly on these 500~ cans.
My T60s grew with my system and I can say confidently as I continue to upgrade and collect headphones they’ll always see regular use. I just think it’s valuable to understand these are kinda picky special cans that may not deliver to you the same YouTube reviewer euphoria that seizes me upon first blush if you’re not ever going to build to a real hell of a system. They were perfect for me because they were what I could afford at the time, delivered exactly the sound I wanted from a closed can, and were going to scale to my endgame. I hope this helped and feel free to reply with questions! Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk!