Whatās the magic?
Whatās the advantage?
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So far the differences I hear in the sound compared to the lcd1 is that the m570 are slightly more v shaped. Bass is punchier, treble is a bit sharper might be sibilant to some but not to me, mids arenāt as shouty as the lcd1, sound stage is a bit wider and Imaging is more accurate. Way better built, way more comfortable. The 570 tick all the right boxes for me so far. Keep in mind these are only first impressions.
Edit: forgot to mention they are way heavier too. Not a big deal to me but a con for other people.
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Which one might make symphony music sound more engulfing like youāre at the concert hall?
Which one makes Dubstep make you suspect that robots may be sexing in the room?
Which one reveals to you all the tiny things you may not have realized were there before?
Which one really rocks a baseline? Thinking in terms of how fast here.
Basically analytics aside, which one takes you there?
Iām looking for the experience here at the end of the day so I donāt mind if you get a little subjective and out there with your descriptions.
Oluv of the LCD1 ālike some kind of razor blade!!!ā
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I donāt listen to symphonic music but Iād imagine the 570 to be better because the sound stage is a bit wider.
LCD 1 is too thin for dubstep for just listening, for producing Iāll take the lcd1 but if you want to listen to a robot orgy then the 570 are way more fun to listen to.
Both equally
Lcd1 might be a bit faster but itās really hard to tell. Theyāre probably the same in terms of speed. 570 might have slightly better sound separation because they have more space to work with. The lcd 1 are still very good in this aspect.
The 570 gave me that wow factor. I think Iām gonna return the lcd1.
Gaming? Played BFV early with 3D headphone enabled and this is where the 570 really wowed. The best positional audio Iāve heard from a headphone. The depth of the soundstage of the 570 really let you hear the distance of explosions and gunfire. Coupled that with it slightly boosted bass and excellent imaging. This thing Is the best headphone Iāve tried for gaming.
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Soundstage comparison to Hifiman stuff that youāve tried?
Compared to 4xx, about the same as far as width. But imaging is not as good as the 570
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Have you had an opportunity to compare to the Sundaras?
No I havenāt. From what Iāve read about the sundaras is that theyāre treble heavy with rolled of bass.
4xx $130
M570 at the sale $240
Worth the extra $110?
Iām definitely hearing that you donāt feel the LCD1 is worth the extra $140 from the m570s
Yep the 570 are definitely worth the extra $110 over the 4XX
Extra $170 after the sale that ends in two days to be fair.
Somehow that seems like significantly more.
Iām thinking that will end up being more of a realistic difference for me as Iāll probably end up having to really take my time with this and try some more things out.
So far I only have experience with IEMs, Sennheiser Momentum (which I just donāt enjoy anymore) and the HD800s I got to try once.
Everything I know is based off of the perverbial āyou guys.ā
58x is in the mail however. Seemed like a very good place to start and see where I want to go from there. May end up returning it for something else.
Yeah, I would just suggest getting the 58x, trying them out, and seeing what you liked, what you were indifferent about, and what you would want to change
Then you can make a more accurate decision
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Uh oh Mon weāre having this discussion on two threads. 
Quick! Say something about the m570 somebody! 
I just respond to what people ask regardless of thread lol
The 570 is pretty great for the price (also with the sale its pretty good), but it might not work as well for certain genres
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What about for us metal heads?
I think it would be pretty good, but might sound a bit recessed in the midrange, but I donāt think it would be bad at all (as long as you arenāt sensitive to a bit brighter and aggressive sound)
Hate to throw a monkey-wrench into the discussion, and realizing it is a dynamic - how might you compare to the Phillips X2HR?
I mostly listen to metal. 570, lcd1, 4XX, even the 58X all sounded good with metal.
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Itās a fair bit better headphone imo. I donāt really it trades many blows. That being said, I find the x2 to have very bloated bass that bleeds into the other ranges, and a kinda undetailed and unrefined sound.
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Perfect - good enough for me - thanks