woo quite a read already here.
lol, we do get questions on this quite often and I try to get to them and help people when I can.
just as long as you come to realize and are ok with the fact that a headphone is going to help push you along… it is not going to be like some kind of wall hack… there are limitations to a headphone but there are also bigger limitations on the games we play… take for example Call of Duty Warzone… that particular games sound engine is pitifully garbage and has a world of issues even on some of the best headphones you can get… lots of inaccuracies, weird soundstage placements, garbled sounds off in the distances, lack of being able to fully utilize much larger soundstage headphones despite being quite a large game, etc.
“faster” will not happen outside of just larger soundstage… your enemies will hear you just as fast as you hear them if capable. Your own reaction times will come into play here… a headphone will not give you some crazy edge on your opponent outside of pinpoint accuracy and how far/close they are. The biggest edge a lot of headphones will provide though is being able to easily pick up sounds such as reloading, med kits, etc which can allow you to have a jump on the target.
That motherboard I can only assume definitely struggled with that 770… its no surprise it was a bit on the fatiguing side of things as beyers do tend to lose their bass and become very sibilant without the proper amount of power.
youll see ad700 a lot because it is still one of the few budget kings alongside shp9500… its not bad by any means its just built… well put it this way its flimsy enough to snap lol same as the shp9500 neither one scream build quality but the sound is good I just wouldn’t call them anything exceptional. Though it definitely depends on the game
K702 brothers all share a similar sound signature with 702 being the bright analytical one… imaging inaccuracies but very large soundstage and a more balanced out sound slightly being recessive in the bass and sub bass. Not a bad match build is decent should last but they can be deceptively expensive and are found on the used markets in mint condition usually for a hell of a lot cheaper.
Sundara, verticality champion in its price budget… imaging exceptional but not full laser extremely airy yet large soundstage. Exceptional fps gaming headphone but is riddled with company quality control problems and built rather cheap being known to break on people… Still if you have one post warranty or one that just works they are fantastic cans but this headphone 100% demands an amplifier
you tried a beyer connected to a motherboard that could not handle a beyer… this is a common misconception as this misleads a person due to the change in signature traits. Not all beyers are obscenely bright but most of them are quite a bit up there… 770 is quite forgiving in comparison to say the 990 and 880 has the most balanced approach of those three. Tygr is a 990 with much less treble yet all the aspects you want from 990 such as laser imaging and the very large soundstage… tygr is easily one of the budget champions due to just what its capable of in practically any of the FPS titles top that off with its comfort and built qualities being well known from being a beyer as all beyers headphones are built like tanks typically and use the standard beyer velour pad.
any form of EQ will demand more power… if your planning to do any of this your going to need an amp… you can’t just plug any headphone into a motherboard and expect it to run properly or sound correctly. EQ creates the need for more power through the form of preamplification to keep the sound balanced out.
rather surprised at this honestly but it does depend on the game and by person basis… 560 definitely isn’t bad.
If I had to rate the beyers as long as they have the proper amp and dac going for them in a game that can actually make full use of them… it would go from best to least… T1 2nd generation, DT 1990(less needing more aggressive placements in which 1990 is first), DT 990, Tygr 300R, DT 880, DT 770, Custom series.
as for levels of brightness? most to least. DT 990 is most apparent, DT 1990, T1 2nd gen due ot less in your face nature and curved drivers, DT 770, DT 880, Tygr 300r, and some of the custom series
I am rather curious on your setup that causes you to find the 560s better and what game… not to come off as aggressive just rather curious… I do appreciate the 560s I just found it a bit of a boring listen… too neutral for my taste so to speak.
so the g6 will drive a beyer to full as long as you have its software setup properly and placed into the higher gain modes… at the same time g6 has its own eq presets which can mess up a headphones sound signature… its software eq, crystallizer, scout mode, and 7.1 all tinker with a sound profile for the headphone… Nonetheless, g6 isn’t what I would call the best for “sound quality” as its just a good item for budget levels of powering good headphones. Its enough to get you what you need and thats about it… you’d need a good setup to get the better sound qualities.
absolutely this ^ lot of people mess up here especially with g6 due to all the internal enhancements… these can massively screw things up.
id hope not? senn are neutral as hell but more in the line of mid forward… granted 560s is definitely on the brighter side for a sennheiser.
leave 7.1 never use this on a beyer… anybody who claims a beyer is easy to drive either has too much money and lost some brain cells or just has no idea what they are talking about. Beyers use an older driver. they are absolutely not easy to drive… you cannot feasibly just plug a beyer 250 ohm into your motherboard and have it run at full… it just will not happen the special exception is those motherboards that have op-amps installed onto the mb but these are more expensive… even then they alter the sound signature of a beyer making it bassier and brighter than it has any right of being… top that off with potential distortion screwing up the levels of clarity.
they are not higher versions but different headphones. 560s is of the 500 series it has larger soundstage and good imaging… the 600 series while are incredibly good are very intimate on soundstage making them a harder recommendation to gamers who want to hear far away… nonetheless something like the 660s over there have incredibly imaging and sound fantastic as long as your okay with the signature.
from a sennheiser? speaking from experience? no. Sennheiser 560s or HD 660s are the ideal candidates with 58x jubilee being the center ground there. The step up from there is either the very expensive HD800S(endgame $1k+ headphone) or the Focal brand like the Elex
eh, more than likely recommend the padswap like pok mentions for this nonetheless yeah… it does work well. Better for vertical placements than the beyers and definitely isnt bad.
560s is just the good all rounder honestly. which is why I am surprised to see someone mention better than the 1990 which is designed to be as aggressively analytical as possible. the hifiman is definitely going to win out on vertical placements and air quality of the sound as is customary of their house sound… sennheisers though have a similar signature just more intimate to the ear… either one will work and its more of a side grade in this particular use case depends on what you need.
depends on the use case really… but yeah in most cases if allowed(as tourney regulations dont allow eq and other things like this) they will tinker with it to get the best picture and best sound placement.
lol cause most of those that are so great for gaming are bassy as hell or just suck big time for imaging or soundstage… most gamer headphones have practically nothing when it comes to staging so something simple like just ksc75 or shp9500 can wreck havoc on many gamers when it comes to placing a fps location.