šŸ”· Schiit Magnius

Agreed. I just want to know if itā€™s garbage or great. I donā€™t know anything about amps. I know that when I plug my headphones in them, sound comes out. Hopefully great sound.

Thank you to the knowledgeable amp masters!

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Just posted via Jasonā€¦I asked if this was a class AB amp ā€¦

The decision to take the SE output from one phase of the balanced output (and thus eliminate the distortion cancellation from differential phases) is deliberate:

(a) It is the same thing we do with Jotunheim, Ragnarok 2, Freya S, and Freya+, because listeners have told us they prefer that approach to summed, single-ended outputs (like we have done on some of the the DACs)
(b) Summing adds complexity and costā€“we would have to have a separate output stage for SE, in addition to the summing op-amp, so the SE output would end up going through much more circuitry
Ā© We were concentrating on making the best balanced amp and preamp we could for an industry-leading price, so this decision is congruent with that approach
(d) If you want superb SE performance, itā€™s better to build around SE and save $100 with Magni Heresy.

In short, I donā€™t see anything to ā€œfix.ā€ We made a design decision. We delivered the highest-value measurement-focused balanced amp out there, with by far the best potentiometer of any amp anywhere near its price, and weā€™re making it in the USA. To us, those are the bragging rights. That doesnā€™t mean Magnius will be for everyone. Sorry if it doesnā€™t work for you.

One question I forgot to ask is this a Class AB amp? I am assuming so??

Thanks
Alex
Yep, Class AB.

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Yeah the difference between SE and Balanced on the Jot is modest and much less significant than the differences on the Gungnir or Yggdrassil which I believe do have summing circuits.

Short version if you buy a balanced amp plan to use it balanced.

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That was the intent of Schiit all along IMOā€¦

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According to the specs, the Magnius should even be able to run a DT 880 600 ohm single ended just fine. Going to keep a close eye on this and the L30.\

Very curious how this amp sounds.

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Single ended performance is worse than a THX, while it could I would say get the a heresy or 3+ instead. Or hellā€¦ Asgard is still quite fine. I canā€™t hear it repeated enough, if you have a sub $500 amp with balanced, run it balanced.

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So, this will be the schiitius stack? Us-stack? Get it? Cause itā€™s US made? I guess the original schiit stack was as well but this isā€¦ bigger. Biggimus stack?

I think the name of the stack is more important than distortion levels, letā€™s get ahead of this yā€™all!

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Pile of Schiit

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I mean, to each their own of course but I hate this brand of ampsā€¦ They make headphones for me sound anemic and brighter perhaps thats their charm though? I mean, I have no issues with these amps on warmer or darker headphones just those that already sound brighter such as a V signature or Bright in general. Ifiā€™s amps seem to make headphones sound warmer and roll off the treble similar to my liquid spark and liquid platinum so perhaps monoprice is the same way in this regard. Aune sounds smoothed out clean and airy strangely enough, Topping just sounds clean as hell very neutral to my hearing. Schiit though is a bit of an odd one for me as asgard 3 over there adds color and better spatial recreation than I have heard on anything I have sat down with so farā€¦ magni 3+ was okay and I didnā€™t get but a few moments with heresy so I canā€™t speak for it personally though asgard 3 easily has been one of my favorites. Very curious if the magnius shares that coloration and spatial recreation.

At the moment I have been looking at ifi zen can, L30, and Magnius as they are the newest installments. So far the zen can over there shares that same style of signature according to reviews so that seems to be fairly accurate with their amps I assume. Anytime I have sat down with something from topping it has that clean neutral sound to it so I expect no less from that L30 outside a huge amount of power. If Magnius is like Heresy then considering heresy is designed different perhaps it has a different sound?

Of course this is just speaking from my own hearing and what I have experienced so far with these amps and their respective brands.

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Agreed, they seem to go through some ups and ā€œkindaā€ downs. They are on as much as an up as they can be now, and im excited to see whats next.

Theyre a little off center with some things but they made it work for them.

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And then thereā€™s the Liquid Platinum.

I donā€™t have issues with a balanced design at a higher price point, also I feel cavalli does a good job with balanced amps, so to me thatā€™s not as much of a bother as it is with more budget oriented amps. Although tbh if he made a single ended version I definitely wouldnā€™t complain lol. Stuff like his liquid fire was excellent and didnā€™t need balanced lol

It seem as if thereā€™s been quite a bump in quality amps available from various brands. I do agree though that balanced is just ā€œperceivedā€ as better. I guess it started with hi-fi amp and then everything had to be balanced.

Everything Iā€™ve read says that given equal quality design SE is just as good as balanced. But perhaps itā€™s easier to implement a quality design in balanced than it is in SE hence the inclination from a lot of vendors to go that way?

EDIT: should have read the thread in its entirety before chiming in. Itā€™s all been already said. :slight_smile:

seeing a single ended liquid platinum from him would be honestly pretty cool. They added a Liquid Platinum DAC to their site recently which I am keeping an extremely close eye on right now seeing as how I own the LP

Yep lol

Pretty sure itā€™s actually the opposite lol, balanced adds more components and complexity for most solid state amps

If you look on the used market, liquid fires tend to pop up sometimes for a good price if you wanted a substantial upgrade over the plat but single ended

itā€™s slipped every month since Iā€™ve been keeping an eye on it. If it has a preamp, I may just jump on it simply from an esthetics standpoint on my desk.

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weā€™re on the same page. increased complexity and componentry but a guaranteed result? as opposed to SE where it will require much more skilled design and implementation?

Canā€™t answer that one, since I donā€™t know much about designing amps, I just know what they sound like lol. But both take skill, I wouldnā€™t assume single ended is more difficult but who knows

The only bright spot about 2020ā€¦ Itā€™s a good time for an enthusiast to start this hobby.

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