What did you do to the pads and headband again? Also yeah seal is important for some headphones lol
Also twisted the headband (left/right metal parts) a bit because they were too wide for my head.
I feel like most people throw their money away and donât even do that⊠I donât get it. Itâs like buying great speakers, putting them on a table and saying ânope, they suckâ. I mean, move them, place them, put them at an angle using a book or something before selling perfect, but not perfectly aligned to your ears, speakers⊠and headphones.
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Ah, ok gotcha. All I felt I had to do was reduce the clamp and everything else was fine
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These are currently my main headphones which I bought like a year ago+ ago as an upgrade to my hd 598 (the old beige ones).
I was immediately surprised because pretty much everything was a noticeable upgrade with the exception of soundstageâŠexcept these gets better imaging because of it and I realised I was completely happy with this trade-off. Itâs also interesting because I paid the 598 more than the 58x when I bought them. I even recommended them to a streamer I know who happened to have the same 598 than me and the only complain they had was the clamp, but they got over it considering how much better than sounded.
The way I would describe them (subjectively at least) compared to the 598 is the bass comes up a lot more, but it is still very controlled so I found it more pleasing. The BIGGEST upgrade however was the imaging and the treble. I never realised the treble was soâŠhigh (not harshâŠbut def higher than optimal comfort) on the 598 until I tried the 58x. It was to the point where I could instantly notice a huge difference, night and day basically.
For the imaging, this was overall very noticeable, but on some OST (I primarily listen to VGM), it was shocking. The main one was the Earthbound OST (itâs a snes rpg game, would recommend btw) which for some reasons I felt the songs were much moreâŠintimate. Itâs a strange feeling because the 598 felt very wide due to the soundstage while the 58x felt closer, but much more precise.
So I would definitely recommend them. Not sure if I will need to upgrade them at some point (I got a fulltime job since I bought them), but for now, I am pretty pleased by them 
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I bought these used a few months ago and have been very impressed. I had never even considered these when they first came out. I am one of the few that bought the HD6XXâs and did NOT like them. That kind of soured me on Sennheiser. But then I remembered the HD598câs which were the best $99.00 headphones I ever bought.
I bought them and they blew away the HE4XXâs (which I didnât like anyway). Since I bought them used, I also picked up a balanced cable. They sound very good out of every amp I own. My new SP200 amp took some real âgetting used toâ. These were the first headphones that sounded good out of it, although by that time I was probably adjusting to the new amps sound signature.
Around the same time I bought a pair of used Shure 1540âs and these sound noticeable better. Of course open back always have an advantage.
These are a real nice all rounder and are what I reach for when I am looking for a change from my current headphone, whatever that might be.
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Anyone else find it strange that in the emails they still use the pre production pictures of the 58x? Also 25 bucks off
Huh⊠Whatâs the difference. Headband padding?
Yes, and also it has the regular 650 frame so it would look super similar to a 650, and you can also see it has no foam in bacj
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I was wondering why the photos look different. Iâm into the 650 look though.
I mean change out a few parts, you could probably get to that look. lol All the 600 parts are interchangeable.
HOT TAKE The 58X are priced properly and other headphone brands (including Sennheiser) have to catch up with them price to perfomance wise 
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considering the price of the 4xx, dt 880 , argons, blon b20âs ior generall other headphones considered good value and such I kinda agree with this comment . to me the 650, 660 , 600 are overpriced and their MSRP pricing really skews many peopleâs perceptions on what good value the massdrop offerings are.
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Hey gamers wanting to know does the 58X get affected as much as the 6XX with tubes?
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Not as much because the 58x is alot less picky about how itâs driven. It does make a noticable and pleasing difference, but itâs def not as big as the 6 series (excluding the 660s because thatâs going to react similarly to the 58x regarding tubes)
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So i got the 58x just a few days ago, mabye 5 now. And after i got them i immediately took a liking to them, similiar to the Blon 03 i found that initially they werenât jaw dropping nor anything of the kind. But the more i listened to them the more i grew to absolutely love them, right now i am obsessed with how good these sound. The bass is pretty good, mids are great and the highs are surprisingly good and detailed. I listen to rap, classical, kpop etc and there has not been a single genre that sounds bad or even just less good. I have found them to make rap sound good with a nice smooth bass, vocals really stand out as they are the placed forward so they always stand out quite well while maintaining good seperation between them and the instruments in the sides. HIGHS are surprisingly good and tame most sharp female voices perfectly which has helped me listen to my precious kpop without fatigue for any periods of time. THey have their own calm vibe which help me listen to some indie bands (soft cute songs) and i have ALMOST zero gripes.
One thing that really caught me off guard when i first put them on was how narrow the soundstage felt, it almost felt like an iem (soundstagewise). It took me a while, maybe 3 full days to finally get used to it and honestly, not even a problem and i donât notice how small it is anymore. ANother is the pads, they hug your ear too much i prefer circle cups way more. That is something else that i got used to and dosenât bother me at all anymore. And finally the headband was too tight, HOWEVER after using a trick that mon sent me i was able to loosen it up so much that itâs not even a problem either.
So at the end of the day, these play everything and i mean everything well, have no problems with the sound and all the physical issues were solvable quickly. These are so precious to me now that i could never live without them. I know they are 150 bucks which is great,i would even pay 200 for these and maybe even 220, donât know if i would go higher than that since i know there are probs some sweet cans at that price lol. I personally paid 75 thanks to a SAINT kind gentleman, so maybe iâm extra into them lol. I recommend these to anyone looking for a super pleasant unoffensive sound, super sweet cans
Edit : amongst the 4xx and DT 770 these are the most still my favorite, they definitely benefit from an amp, with the liquid spark in particular the bass becomes more punchy if thatâs what youâre interested in.
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Does the 58x have the Sennhieser veil too?
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Yes, but itâs better extended than the 600 or 650 so not as much. Having the Sennheiser house sound isnât a bad thing though, itâs more preference based
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I really like it for that⊠really chill treble but the detail is good when you listen for it
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Well im listening to these headphones and sometimes they sound positively dark. I love the treble on them not sibilant at all. but the trade off is darkness
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Itâs less prominent treble than others you currently own. With more listening you may find you get used to it and no longer find it that dark but who knows
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