ah well then, great price then.
im in the same boat
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Here is a new listing for an open box sold as âBrand Newâ Audioquest Nighthawk you can make an offer on for anyone interested. Link
$400? ridiculous⊠would definitly talk him down on that
I have 2 people I am talking too. If one of them falls threw, I post all my NightHawk Findings
Shut me down if unwarranted, but can we keep the focus here on the TYGRs and move the other chatter to the Nighthawk official thread? đ¶ Audioquest NightHawk
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That is a good point.
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I rarely see it mentioned, but if someone was starting from scratch Iâd probably recommend a Motu M2 to pair with TYGRs and a dynamic mic for gaming.
I wouldnât. Motu is $170 + Tax + shipping fee and audio interfaces arenât the best for headphone sound quality compared to an amp let alone how weak they are in terms of power and headroom. You can go that route but it definitely wonât be anything that great in my opinion. Also theres cheaper interfaces for that option
Sorry if this has been mentioned, but where are we in terms of the TYGRâs imaging vs. DT880 250/600Ω?
The tygr, much like the 990s which uses the same driver, have better imaging than the 880 as well as a larger soundstage due to semi open back vs fully open. The difference would be noticeable in competitive gaming⊠DT 880 has the more ideal sound signature but in terms of imaging and staging itâs better on the tygr. Tygrâs bass isnât very in the way though and really only downside is that itâs not bright so it may be a bit tougher picking out certain sounds
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I am really interested in a pair but I just donât think I can justify it since I already have a 177X GO. I will keep an eye out for any used pairs or sales though.
not really all that comparable as they have seperate signatures and are closed back vs open back. Pretty much completely different headphones.
They did go on sale around the time I first picked up my pair but only for like $20 off. Finding a used pair though seems rather rare, I think I have seen them sold used maybe one time so far.
Though I suppose itâs up to you in the long run.
Edit: I guess I should add it will probably depend on location for used though⊠seen a few comment from the EU that beyer sells b stock tygrs over there for much cheaper than we can get here in the USA which is quite unfortunate that we donât have that same luxury.
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I more meant for my wallet, haha. But I really could use a pair of open backs. But yeah Iâm here in the USA.
I really canât understand why Beyer doesnât employ a detachable cable, thatâs another put off for me. I know it can be modded, though.
To my knowledge and experience with their brand so far it would appear they reserve their detachable cables for their expensive headphones but not the cheap headphones⊠which honestly, is very annoying.
lol understandable, I try to save money whenever I can as this hobby loves to light your wallet on fire. Well, 177x GO are quite nice for what they are⊠Large soundstage despite closed back, great imaging(not as good), and has a U shape signature or what I call a more subtle V signature as itâs closer to neutral(much more refined and balanced out than the original 1770s). I no longer own that headphone after I switched it out for my Aeons but it was nice for a while. I wouldnât particularly say you need the tygr if you find a lot of enjoyment out of 177x honestly⊠it would just be a somewhat different signature as they both are pretty close to neutrality⊠youâd pretty much just be buying a headphone without the 177x Goâs treble peak, much more soundstage, and much better imaging. I would tell you pick up the nighthawks or a bright headphone instead if you really wanted a good complimenting headphone with a seperate signature for more variety.
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Trigger has been pulled for me on the T1 3rd generation courtesy of my best friend I have known since childhood. Going to be very interesting to see how it compares to the Tygr and T1 2nd generation. It should be in this week.
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So I received my TYGR 300Râs yesterday. Iâve been using them for some hours now and I somehow they donât sound⊠right. The only comparison material I have is my Dali Zensor 5.0 set, my XM3âs and my old Steelseries 5Hv2 which I use for gaming. I am driving my TYGRâs with a Tomahawk B450 MAX which is using a Realtek ALC892. I also tried the old USB sound card that came with the the Steelseries, with the USB sound card the TYGRâs get way louder (like 25% volume sounds as loud as 100% volume via the IO of my motherboard). The TYGRâs seem to sound a bit muffled and are lacking clarity. Would a AMP/DAC make a difference here? Worth noting: I bought these as b-stock straight from Beyerdynamic. Maybe I just need to get used to the sound, but I wanted to post my thoughts about it here.
Hey, welcome to hifiguides.
If such a cheap sound card is having that much effect it means your motherboard isnât cutting it. Cheap sound cards tend to destroy sound more than correctly driving something. Pretty sure I have said this a few times now but to explain here, the tygr will appear quite muffled and even lose a lot of bass and clarity if itâs not properly driven. It is however a warm headphone with some dark tones to it which may appear odd to those used to gaming headsets as gaming headsets are either neutral or have their treble raised in most cases as brightness aka treble helps with competitive gaming.
Mental burn in is indeed a thing and takes time to adjust to. The headphones also take some time to acclimate and burn in. However, an amp and dac will always help in terms of sound quality over onboard audio.
I would recommend finding an amp/dac with a return policy to check out. It could very well be that you personally arenât a fan of the signature as well. We all have our own tastes in sound and preferences we hear things differently. Grab something cheap like an fx-audio dac-x6 or Fiio e10k if your on a budget⊠soundblaster g6 or x3 work as well as ifi zen dac works well. If your just planning a proper investment put $200 towards your amp and dac and pick up one of the $100 amps such as magni 3+, Magni Heresy, JDS Atom, Monoprice Liquid Spark, or Archel+Enog(amp and dac but great together but these are more expnesive than $200). Dacs you can run with a combo unit at first or your onboard audios dac if you prefer but you will gain cleaner sound from a dedicated dac. JDS has their own dac but I tend to recommend Topping as they pair quite well and do a great job so D10 would be my recomendation there
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Thanks for your quick response! Iâm going to buy an AMP/DAC to check what it does for me, thank you for your suggestions. Iâll keep you updated.
Of course, glad I could help a bit. If it still doesnât work out for you try to pin point what it is you feel could be improved⊠I am sure there is a great alternative that will suit you just fine within the same price range as the Tygr. Tygrs just have exceptional imaging and soundstage alternatives wonât have that but still will be able to do the job just fine(such as akg k712 over there or k7xx which I prefer a bit more than the k712). It took me a bit of time to acclimate to darker signatures after coming from gaming headsets especially since I found out I am a huge fan of bright sounding headphones. It took me close to a month to get used to Dark sounding headphones after I bought my nighthawk carbons which are extremely dark. Tygrs are bassy yet slightly neutral dark in sound signature itâs not a very common sound honestly for a gamer considering all the signatures you tend to get from the gaming headset market
If your on pc though and get an amp. Pick up PEACE APO(itâs free but two downloads) itâs an equalizer takes a slight bit of setup but make sure its configured to the amp/dac unit. This will let you tinker with tygrs sound signature and can help you pinpoint what it is you find more ideal in signature.
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