I have an msi b450 gaming plus max.
Your completely fine
DEDICATED HEADPHONE AMPLIFIER THAT AUTO-DETECTS IMPEDANCE The built-in dedicated headphone amplifier rewards audiophiles with headphones up to 600Ω impedance by delivering studio-grade sound quality from your gaming PC. Audio Boost 4 automatically detects the optimal impedance for your headphones and adjusts the output for the best sound quality.
quoted from https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC
used pro carbon ac as example as question came up before)
I wouldnât try 600 ohms but thats one of those boards that can crank 250 ohm headphones.
Ok, thanks for the help! This is the first time Iâve been on this website so I donât know why it broke up my original post into 3 separate posts.
Lol, no worries. Glad to be of help. Welcome to Hifiguides, if you have any further questions feel free to ask or create another thread for questions. Plenty here who can help you out.
if you mean my response? When you highlight something I say it will give you an option to quote me. That was me segmenting the post so I can talk about it in particular
Iâll definitely come back if I have any issues. Iâve been trying to come upon some of that info for days. There arenât many detailed reviews of this pair. Thanks for the help!
My write up review on these in particular is on this page just a ways up. That was when I finally sat down with them early on. Fantastic headphones. Granted my thoughts on the amp have changed a bit since my own pc upgrades and it really does a solid job at competitive gaming
Yep yep, take it easy and happy gaming
Hey I got the TYGR 300 in the end! But it came with the fox mic. I am using it, my friends said that it sounded really good. However I am just wondering, is there a difference between using the fox mic as a ?amp or should I directly plug the headphones into the motherboard?
Thanks for your advice again!
Itâs a preamp and will be able to provide more power and a slightly better sound quality than an onboard audio as they were designed to be used together, also lets you have chatmix hearing your own voice if you prefer otherwise turn the dial on it so you canât hear yourself.
eh, so so. Definitely would by no means consider that a âGoodâ sounding microphone as itâs quite warm and rather inaccurate. I have some gaming headset mics that sound better than that thing. Regardless, it works so if you like it, stick with it.
My Tygrs arrived yesterday and so far I love them! Sound wise anywayâŠ
The clamp force I feel below my ears is real, but I can stretch that out. My issue is more with the ear fit.
My left ear just is not sitting well and gets uncomfortable against the driver no matter how I adjust. This is most noticeable at the top of my ear in particular. Right ear sits fine for whatever reason, and my wife (smaller ears) has no issues.
Do I just need to break them in more? Or is it just a bad fit and I need to start looking at either deeper pads or different shaped headphones?
Spend a few days stretching them out and breaking them in. If this still doesnât work you can always get some thicker velour pads for the headphone. Dekoni Elite Velour works
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How do they TYGRs compare to the 400i? They will be my main-driver for everything. Mainly music (metal and hard rock) and multiplayer gaming but also watching videos and movies.
TYGRs seem to be a great pick, but I heard Planars are another level too, which makes me look into the 400i 2020. Which of the 2 is better? I am not looking for awesome gaming performance or anything, just overall-objectively-better sound.
Depends on the planar and what the person is looking for in sound.
both are good and depends on use case, better is subjective and unanswerable.
Tygr are beyerdynamics and built like a tank 400i are hifiman and generally have concerns about quality control and are built quite cheap imo, velour pad vs a hybrid pad, warm signature vs a bright signature, dynamic vs planar, 32 ohm at 96 db vs 35 ohm at 93 decibel, weight 290 gram vs 370 gram. Tygr is subjectively better for gaming in all case scenarios outside of needing more brightness
400i is a bass lite bright headphone. It is not good for this particular genre of music. Go with the tygr in this use case.
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If you want open back for these genres i would suggest:
Tygr, Fidelio X2HR, HD650 or if you want planar the t20rp. I think the t20rp is the weakest here.
Falkenor is right. The Hifiman isnât the right headphone for metal and hard rock.
Closed back for rock: Dt250, Custom Studio, Meze 99 Classic, Sony Mdr 1a. My favourite closed back for music is the B&O H6 2nd gen. This works also pretty good for rock. Good dynamics/impact superb texture quality, deep bass, decent soundstage with good imaging
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Yeah Iâm sticking with it for now. Maybe down the road Iâll upgrade again but for now Iâm satisfied! Thanks for your review Falenkor!
Hello everyone, I finally pulled the trigger on a beyer headphone and this is it. However, I find the sound lacking in detail compared to my Denon D7200. Itâs not a fair comparison I know considering the denon is closed back and 4x the price, but I didnât think it will be this much of a difference.
And it distorts a lot while talking to my friends on discord for some reason. Iâm using a G6 as dac connected to a liquid spark. I donât have any problem with distortion or otherwise with denon.
The reason I bought the TYGR is itâs the soundstage and imaging mainly for single player and RPG with the occasional multiplayer. The denon is very average in this regard and it sounds too 2D if that makes sense. Width is good for a closed back but depth is almost nonexistent.
Back to the TYGR, is my setup wrong for them ? or do they just have that much warmth that masks details ?
My TYGRâs do not distort at all while talking on Discord. and i do it daily.
although, i have noticed the headphone distorts on some bass heavy songs at high volumes (volume knob at > 2 o clock, high gain, atom amp). Does your G6 have an EQ on? perhaps bass boost of some kind?
If that is not the case, you may have a defective unit.
Today the TYGR helped me a lot with another pair of headphones that I like very much, now also to be able to enjoy listening to music!
I liked the DT990 Edition 600 Ohm for its tonality, airiness and its stage. To use it for gaming and watching TV.
The peaks in the heights were simply too much for me to listen to music for a long period of time.
The TYGR went tonally in the same direction, but never had these peaks. Unfortunately it didnât have the airiness and stage that the DT990 represented.
So once I exchanged the foam discs of the two headphones and found that the TYGR suddenly had the âBeyer Peakâ and the DT990 lost it without losing any of its other qualities.
So I called Beyerdynamic, got the article number and ordered these foam discs for my Beyer DT770, DT880 and DT990.
These foam inserts are actually built into the Amiron Wireless.
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So I have a question regarding the 300râs for you allâŠ
I recently bought the Sivga Phoenix and love the deep bass and how forward these headphones are. I also have a pair of 58x that has pretty decent bass and BEAUTIFUL vocals (intimate soundstage).
Then I just got these and my first impressions are not very good. The mids feels recessed to the point where Iâm like âwhere is the singer⊠please come back!â The bass doesnât sound any larger in quantity or quality than the 58x to me and definitely nowhere near the bass on the Phoenixâs. The treble is really nice on these where I can crank these bad boys up and hear absolutely no sibilance or harshness. Iâve always had a hard time with qualifying good imaging as I feel most headphones do that decently well.
Am I going crazy or does any of this resonate with you all? Is imaging really where these shine or are there other secrets that make these headphones as beautiful as others say?
P.S. Iâm hooked up into thx 789 and grace dac
Sounds like you just prefer a more forward midrange. To my ears the Tygr had a tighter more hard hitting bass than both the Phoenix and 58x. I found the Phoenix bass to be loose at times. Same goes for the 58x. The tygrs mids are more pushed back but still clear and detailed. The Tygr is definitely much wider and bigger sounding to me than the 58x. So you definitely have a different impression than i do.
I personally donât like the 58x as the mids were way to forward for me and sounded too dark which I like my sparkle.
Hey,
i do own the tygr, the fidelio x2 and the nighthawk carbon. I sent back the Phoenix today after trying them for 2 weeks.
The phoenix has very pronounced or prominent upper mids. So vocals are forward sounding.
The mids on the tygr are slightly recessed and the soundstage is much bigger. I donât think, that vocals are pushed back too far away.
It is a question of personal preference and which sound signature you like.
For my taste the mids on the phoenix are too much. They are too forward and always in your face. I could hear max 5 songs in a row, because the listening experience was so fatigueing for me. Donât get me wrong. I like fun headphones, which have elevvated sound areas here and there. But the Phoenix was just too forward sounding.
On the other hand vocals on the Nighthawk Carbon (with microsuede pads) are just a little bit too far away for my taste. Josh Valour mentioned the recessed vocal prensence in his nighthawk video, too. That is the only con that i have with the nighthawks carbon.
The tygr has a pretty neutral or balanced vocal presence in my opinion.
I think, that you maybe just prefer forward mids or vocals.
The fidelio x2 has also a pronounced vocal presence, but not to the degree of the phoenix. This is why i prefer the X2 for most music compared to the nhc or the tygr. I think that the nhc beats the fidelio in most sound categories (technically speaking), but i simply like the presentation of vocals more on the x2.
I agree with you, that the bass (and general sound) texture on the tygr isnât really impressive. On a weak amp (in my case the ifi zen) bass distorts on the tygr even more than the bloated bass of the fidelio x2. The tygr needs some power to sound better in my opinion. The tygr sounds much tighter on my geshelli archel 2.5 amp than on the ifi zen.
I like the imaging, soundstage, treble and the soft and delicate sound in general on the tygr. I am using these mainly for gaming. Sometimes i am listening music with these, but i prefer the fidelio, the nighthawk and my closed b&o H6 for music.
So, if you donât like the sound signature of the tygr, maybe you should try the fidelio x2hr ( which is about in the same price range). Other midfocused options could be an sennheiser 600 or 650.
The nighthawk has about the same bass quantity with protein pads and a little less bass with microsuede pads than the phoenix. The nighthawk has better bass texture and a little bit more subbass. The phoenix has more mid bass.
But due to the recessed vocal presence i would doubt that you would like the nhc, if you prefer very present vocals.
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