At this point continue discussion in PM if you guys still feel the need on the cable stuff? This has kinda gotten quite far off topic and somewhat unproductive since it’s more just a pissing contest rather than a discussion at this point. One of those things that it’s just better to disagree and move on
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This is what I get when I try saving people money I guess.
Wont reply to this topic anymore, just drop it. Go to head-fi´s penon thread if you want to talk about cables affecting sound.
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OK yeah because talking about which 30 dollar iem is the best is suuuuuper productive
Consider what thread this is, and what it’s topic is supposed to be. So it very likely pertains a whole lot more to the thread than the discussion at this point. Again, neither side is going to listen to each other, so it’s just somewhat namecalling
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wow, just… wow
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Whatever i had my fun. I’ll take a leave instead of wasting my time with these graph peeps
LOL!!! Talk about passive aggressive! hahahahaha
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Yeah right? HAHAHAHA it’s hilarious join in when it’s over but aren’t interested I arguing when it’s going on
Well regardless of all this, would have been interesting to see you answer some of the questions other people asked instead of dodging them @luizgarcia. And @Jose_G that was uncalled for. But yes back to the actual thread
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I live for uncalled for moments. If these guys love discrediting other people’s opinions but can’t take it when someone discredits them that’s their own fault
Then they call a mod because they want it to stop
I have never seen LCR measurements when it comes to cables. Mostly because LCR-meters are expensive pieces of specialised test gear.
And a cable that has lower impedance at certain frequencies will certainly shave off a dB or two here or there.
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If you are interested in looking at the measurements look at audio science reviews, Amir has an article about this with all the measurements, i just don’t have the link handy to paste here…
Oh no, i mentioned Amir, the forbidden name, here we go with another 2 hours of ranting!!! LOL
If one of my threads turned into this, I’d want it to stop as well lol. Typically like to let people resolve things on their own but at this point I don’t really see that happening
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You said it, if they chose to properly represent their viewpoints instead of discrediting others it would have not ended up like this. He’s mad because his thread got derailed? I’m more mad because our forum has reached the state its in with graphs being the end all be all. If someone disagrees with you all you need to do is say that they are just wrong. If you take part of an argument you don’t finish it when you should have probably just not taken part in it since the beginning
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Amir just threw money at an expensive measuring machine. The “higher number = better” assumption is bad and Amir needs to buy himself an electronics basics book.
To elaborate:
When you take a measurement, you have expectations of what the number you get will be range wise. You also have a purpose for said measurement. Just gathering numbers for the sake of having numbers is a waste of time.
There also needs to be a “acceptable” and “unacceptable” dividing line.
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As far as i know he is a well respected engeneer, but again, he has the measurements if you want to look at those.
This is just nother, wow, just… wow moment to me, lol
Hey @Rikudou_Goku , sorry this happened to your thread man. Like religion and politics, cables are a subject to be avoided in this hobby… Something like this happen everywhere this subject comes to light…
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Yeah I am aware of that…
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And weren’t you basically the one that brought it up in the first place? Sure @Rikudou_Goku mentioned it first, but you are kinda asking for people to jump on it with this one. This seems more like trying to invite discussion rather than dissuade it
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