🔶 Sennheiser HD58x Jubilee

[duke86fan]

eh i still feel like an ampdac would still be useful… probably because of the high resolution audio so i kinda wanna know the experience of 24 bit 96K sound… it doesn’t even have to be expensive… just can drive headphones, and be easy to use for these high resolution files

and so some that do have the higher frequencies can actually use those higher frequencies

[LeDechaine]

Chances are you will spend your money for absolutely nothing because you won’t hear the difference. Still, a good DAC, that can do 24/96 and more, will make everything, even 128kbps mp3s, sound better anyway.

If you absolutely need something small, the FiiO K5 Pro is a good choice (dac/amp). Or the Ifi Zen Dac (dac/amp). I don’t want to recommend lower quality than that because you didn’t hear a difference with the Dragonfly.

If you have space, just a little bit of space on a desktop, a JDS Labs Atom (amp) plugged in a Topping D10, an SMSL Sanskrit 10th or an SMSL M100 (DACs) is a good choice.

To be damn sure everything sounds better, I’d recommend a JDS Labs Atom into a Topping D50S. But I don’t know your budget. I got a cheap ass DAC and a JDS Labs Atom and HD58Xs and that’s what people recommended me for an upgrade that actually would sound like an upgrade.

[duke86fan]

I just don’t have the space

Btw the dragonfly I had was an original black

Not the fancy red or cobalt

[LeDechaine]

So, FiiO K5 Pro, or Ifi Zen Dac, or if you have the money, go for portable DAC/Amps:

Pricey, quality, but small: FiiO Q5/Q5S.
Big, but affordable (still portable): xDuoo XD-05

[LeDechaine]

You might want to open a thread for other portable amp/dacs, because I don’t know much about em. Maybe Topping NX4, maybe these…

[donjklassen]

Share your mobile setup!

I’m curious what everyone here uses for a mobile type setup? Whether it be for a commute etc or something in a bag for later use in a hotel etc… I use my phone and porta pros and as of late it’s not satisfying me as much… so brag about what you use and for what purpose(s) and hopefully I’m inspired! Thanks folks!

Some good ideas in here

[Brian_Coffelt]

Yep my 1st setup was the HD58x and ifi Nano BL… I was hooked…

I have more amp/dac gear now but still only 1 HP… so far…

The HD58X sound good just off my phone, but with an amp/dac it’s a whole different game.

[Soren_Peregrine]

@duke86fan Yeah I would recommend setting up a thread saying you are looking for a good DAC/AMP that is portable and say what your price range is.

[Mufflertape]

So I got a question, has anyone successfully done a bucking magnet mod for these yet? I thought I cracked the code when they first came out, but I later had to acknowledge that something wasnt right, didnt damage the headphones, but could tell that maybe my positioning was off etc. Anyway just throwing it out there to see whats the latest with the community on that stuff.

[Antpage2]

I just did a review of this headphone here:

Ant's Review of the Sennheiser HD58x

Sennheiser HD58x 7.8 This is another of those headphones I keep hearing about. Often recommended to audiophile newbies this headphone retails for about 150$ They say it shares a sound signature with the HD660. Many people are saying this is the best deal for a cheaper headphone right now. [20200203_103855] SOUND Neutral warm bassy. Bass on these is just great. great sub bass doesn’t bleed into the mids. I actually heard rumble on these. Mids are also great and forward. Vocals sound great. T…

[LeDechaine]

Disclaimer: I am treble sensitive AF, lol.

As much as I said I loved these headphones, there’s a… 7-8khz peak I really don’t like, with my pair, on some songs. Which is damn weird because even the “peaky” GRAS graph only show a small 5khz peak – not what I hear.

Anyway, my pair was used, serial number 011319 (!), and I believe there’s been a few silent revisions, so, I guess you won’t have this problem. Just a warning if you buy it used, I guess.

[Soren_Peregrine]

The truth is most graphs and testing rigs are not all that accurate above 2khz, at least that’s what I have heard. I always trust human ears first before looking at a graph. I will look at graphs to find an explanation of why I am hearing something, but if it doesn’t match up, I trust my ears, or another person’s that I trust as well.

[LeDechaine]

@Soren_Peregrine

are not all that accurate above 2khz

I mean, it’s not that random. I’d say “good luck” for above 10khz though.

[M0N]

I would say for a high quality rig it would be accurate to around 8-10k, cheaper ones would be less accurate

[Soren_Peregrine]

Right. Just trying to make the point though that graphs are not as reliable as your own ears.

[A_COC0NUT]

Could you link some of the offending songs?

[LeDechaine]

Lol, just Linus talking (Linus Tech Tips on YouTube) sounds way too clear on this pair of headphones for me, for example.

[LeDechaine]

It’s always voices, too much highs in the voices, sounds unnatural to me.
To be clear, they’re still excellent. But I’m searching for something with a bit less high-mids/low-treble now. They’re too clear for my treble-sensitive ears.

Edit: Warning, this second video is like 10dB louder?!

[donjklassen]

@LeDechaine

something with a bit less high-mids/low-treble now.

Nighthawks perhaps lol

[LeDechaine]

nighthawk gang!

No, I’ll see… something more neutral, one day. cough like Elegias maybe cough.