đŸ”¶ Sennheiser HD58x Jubilee

Good for you- just make sure the source is good enough for the next upgrade on headphones

For example:
I use the Elegia with my ifi xDSD at the office and this is a perfect combination
The Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro is antother good pairing. The 58x is also nice out of the ifi

This week I recieved my 6xx and it does not pair well with the xDSD- made me nuts.
With the home stack (RME ADI 2 DAC > THX AAA 789) the 6xx is perfectly fine.

In the end you will have to listen by yourself.
It’s not all about enough power
 the complete chain has to work well for YOUR preferences

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While not a problem for me, I can hear the slight sharpness in the “S” range (7-10k) and a bit of “shouty-ness” (~5k) in those songs. I did a frequency sweep and heard distinct peaks at ~5k and ~10k so I guess it makes sense that these headphones could bother someone with a strong high sensitivity.

I don’t know if I would recommend the HD6XX since I’m pretty sure the treble is similar to the HD58X. Maybe the NDH-20 would be good if they are not too expensive for you.

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So a while ago I made a post about using dekoni elite velour pads on my HD58X. By themselves they add a bit more bass than I want, but overall I would recommend trying them if you want more comfort and LONGEVITY than stock pads. With the driver dampening mod (described here) these pads are so close to stock I can’t tell a difference. I mention this because a little while ago I got dekoni choice suede pads for Sennheisers. I’ve been using them for a while with the dampening mod, but recently I decided to remove the mod and go back to stock pads just out of curiosity. I guess since my critical listening skills have gotten better, I noticed a change in the sound from the suede’s with the mod to the stock pads without the mod that I had not noticed before. This set me off in a couple of days of pad swapping, so I decided to do a more in depth comparison between these three pads, with and without the mod, to justify all that swapping.

Starting with no dampening mod, obviously stock pads sound like stock pads. Not much to say there. The velour are definitely different, but it’s only a sound signature change, NOT a sound quality change. The bass is brought up a good amount and I think the mids are a touch more intense. No change to how they are presented or anything like that, just a little bit louder (like a LITTLE bit). The treble seems about the same, no real changes. Finally the suedes. These are definitely the biggest change. They add the most bass. Too much in fact. This muddies the sound in an objective way, vailing the mids. There is the same bump to the mids and no change in the treble just like the velour pads, but the bass is just too much. This is made worse by the fact that the suedes reduce the soundstage and make the sound a bit more closed and intense overall. By themselves I would not recommend the suede pads.

Now with the dampening mod. The stock pads sound the same as without, just with a noticable reduction in the bass. It is actually a good sound if you are looking for a bass light sound signature (I guess similar to the HD600) Otherwise no other changes. The velour pads with the mod are identical to stock as far as I can tell. No difference other than comfort (and like I mentioned in my original post, maybe a slight boost to mid bass impact). Now the interesting one, the suedes. These become a very good option with the dampening mod. The bass is reduced to a more reasonable level (just a good, tasteful boost similare to the velours without the mod) and the reduced soundstage and added intensity become more pleasurable as you are no longer being bombarded by boomy bass. The mids and highs are clear and forward and vocals are still just as intimate as before, it just feels a bit more exiting to me. Like with all these options there is no change in the highs that I can notice. This change may not be for everyone but I actually quite like it. Also the suedes are the most comfortable of the three.

So to conclude, stock and modded dekoni valour are equal, un-modded velour and modded suede are a preference thing in my opinion (un-modded velour are a safer bet though), and un-modded suede are too bassy.

Thank you for listening to my TEDtalk

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This pretty much confirms the Dekoni graphs. :+1:

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May you link me some dekoni pads for my HD650, I need a new pair relatively soon for mixing purposes exclusively.

Cheers,
Felix

These seem to keep the sound the closest to stock from what I can tell. I’m not sure if the same dampening mod I used with my HD58X will work with the HD650. The only other option is stock pads.

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Anyone tried using the Oratory1990 EQ settings for the HD58X? For me the stock 58X sounds off, specially because the 5k peak. For me this EQ fix many issues with this headphone, it feels more detailed, cymbals improved a lot.

I’m curious about how the equalized HD58X would compared with the other Sennheisers 600’s that have a better stock tonality.

Tbh I’m a little disappointed because these don’t sound THAT much different from my m50s

I expected life changing sound but it just feels the same

Maybe my dac is a bottleneck

Or the fact they were already modded with the foam

There just isn’t much of a pop

What are you disappointed in exactly? I find them to be good all rounders with sufficient base. When I go from HD600’s to HD58X’s I enjoy the 58’s more. Hopefully a tube amp will change that, but I am skeptical.

Neither is anywhere near the top of my list, but I really think the 58’s have a nice sound at a pretty affordable price.

What were you looking for/expecting?

A drastic sound change from my m50s

A sound that was more punchy or textured or maybe bright or just fun

The sound profile isn’t that different

All Senns don’t tend to be Very anything. They are for the most part pretty neutral. I have never been wowed by Senn headphones.
The HD600 and HD6XX’s underwhelmed me and the HD598c’s and HD58X’s both impressed by their value.

I can’t think of another open headphone I would want to have at that price point. Others may disagree but I think it is a very good/affordable open back headphone.

Sorry to hear you’re disappointed, but I guess it goes back to “We all hear differently”.

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Then again I only got them for one day

I just want a sound signature that doesn’t just sound like “ok these are very similar to my m50s”. Meanwhile I was told if want to destroy my m50s after owning them
 Maybe I would have preferred something more punchy or bright
 maybe v shaped

There are definitely better headphones, but they cost more. Maybe you would enjoy the X2HR’s more? I compared the two and found X2’s lacking in vocals which doesn’t work for me. However the X2’s excelled in bass. Depends on what you’re looking for I guess. And the X2’s are Dirt cheap. But I think the HD58X’s are a much better headphone.

Different strokes


Nah that wouldn’t work for me
 vocals and bass matter a lot
 but it’s just I want something new sounding that feels new and I can honestly feel excited about the music

Maybe I just have musical burnout

I just want a new feeling
 something to pop and to basically feel high listening to music

I have been living off that “high” for two weeks with my Focal Elex’s! They are every bit as good as I had hoped. A rare result in life. :grin:

Happy hunting! They should be fairly easy to move, if they don’t bring you joy. But maybe try them out for a few weeks and see if you feel the same. Senns are more of a subtle headphone than a wow headphone, IME.

I dunno good wow headphones for my bass and druggy brain that don’t require an amp since I can’t afford the one I’m planning yet

Also they were foam modded so that could be the issue

Sorry, that was me I believe lol

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The other choice I had was grado sr80e’s so if I turn out I don’t like the sennheisers after unmodding them I’ll just buy those instead

My favourite headphones are my Grado GH2’s. I started off with the SR325e’s.

Grado’s do NOT need any amping and sound great out of a DAP or phone. However
there will not be a lot of bass.

And here I have to apologize. I have never actually heard these headphones directly from my DAP or phone. They sound great in my system and I don’t have to jack up the volume like I do with the HD600’s, so I kind of assumed.
However, I suppose you probably don’t get their best performance from a phone or DAP.

My bad!