this is why i hate about most chifi, they keep changing things…
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instead of shining the light toward the IEMs try shining the light from behind, towards the camera. This should make it easier to get a pic of the internals
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oh yeah i tried for way too long. i think between the phone camera and no light small enough and bright enough to avoid blinding the camera at the same time it’s all i could get.
not great but figured it was enough.
maybe i can try again some time with the updated model if anyone needs something specific. packed up the old one though since i was done A/Bing them
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They changing shite again what
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Get a macro lens adapter.
My old pics here were taken using this:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005179271326.html
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My recently received Doscinco’s insides also looks like your newer unit.
I also see another older Doscinco’s internal pics that looks like your old unit too
Completely speculative, but maybe this manufacturing change made the Doscincos consistently brighter. And perhaps similar changes made the Cincotres duller sounding, given how early impressions ex. @domq422 's, @VIVIDICI_111 's, etc. are so different from this recent video’s impressions and mine
So now we have two older units that look the same internally and two newer units that look the same as well, which points to a → Stealth Revision?
I’m gonna assume gizaudio has the newer versions, and honestly the Dos and Tres both still sound amazing.
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yup, definitely revised for one reason or another.
just needed to post my findings because it’s shifted enough into a mild V tuning (the reduced bass/increased treble combo can stack up quick) from nearly a full-on basshead set, that I could see it being a make-or-break difference depending on the individual.
I wouldn’t personally blind buy this right this moment if I didn’t already have it, would wait for more updated reviews/graphs.
although in practice it’s personally worked out for the better.
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Ya, funny cause I would’ve thought my doscincos were the cincotres and vice versa if I were blindfolded and was going by the early released impressions.
Now, listening to them both, I can’t decide which one I like better 
Good problem to have I guess
Another interesting thing, is that Timmy’s measurement of cincotres is awfully similar to his measurement of the upcomming DaVinci 
not perfectly though. Squiglink - IEM frequency response database by Timmy Vangtan
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damn why do they do this 
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this revision shit makes it so difficult in an already difficult arena to buy stuff
I’m about to clutch my money and throw it at DaVinci instead
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oh this graph might save me from having to choose between Cinco or Dos, now I can do Dos and DaVinci
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I have 2 Doscincos as well and ran into the same thing!
I ordered one pair from AliExpress on March 20th 2024 and received April 14th and ordered one pair on Amazon on April 7th 2024 and received on April 8th.
I noticed right away the AliExpress pair had more of the blue sparkles on the faceplate compared to the Amazon ones. After seeing this post I also saw the same differences inside.
The AliExpress ones looked like your old ones and the ones from Amazon like your new ones.
I think what confused me a bit was the numbers on the IEMs themselves, which I assumed was a serial number or something.
The AliExpress ones have a higher number (259) at the end while the Amazon ones have a lower number (127) but not sure if that matters much.
I will be returning the Amazon ones as those have horrible driver flex on both sides, while the AliExpress ones only have mild driver flex on the right side.
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What I need is the below 80 Hz of the Cinco and the 200 Hz through 1 kHz of the Davinci. I could go with either set above 1 kHz.
But which Cinco set, old or revised, is graphed here?
An interesting comparison:
https://timmyv.squig.link/?share=Dunu_Davinci_(V3_-_Final),ZiiGaat_Cincotres,SeeAudio_Bravery
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just wanted to update a bit
some of what i wrote earlier makes it sound worse than it is. although the drivers being shuffled around internally isn’t a great look.
noticed the HBB vs Timmy graphs are a better visual for what I was hearing.
not a ton of change on either end until they’re happening at the same time.
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Timmy got them within the last ~two weeks from the manufacturers, so I’m going to assume it’s the new revision ones
(^Rough estimate because in his last ranking video he said he hasn’t gotten them yet)
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Hmm very interesting. Did you notice a sound difference between the two, which one has more bass/highs?
And how bad is the driver flex in the bad one, is it crunchy/crinkly in one but not the other?
In today’s “end of the month Q&A” livestream on Gizaudio he measured an early unit 033 and later unit 286 Doscinco, and they measured essentially identical. So he concluded there was no silent revision, just unit variation. He also says he liked the new ziigaats and didn’t experience any driver flex.
Also heard about this upcomming ziigaat collab. Damn I’m curious
“The ZiiGaat x Fresh Review Arete is a 1DD+4BA Hybrid IEM with a 5 Driver Hybrid Configuration”
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interesting. I would have chalked it up to bad luck on unit variation, and not even really bothered posting much about it myself, if not for the drivers being rearranged inside.
i wonder if anyone with more industry knowledge knows if that’s a normal thing with any other sets; the drivers being maneuvered, maybe to account for the individual driver’s frequency response tolerances?
I’ve read BA matching is quite the hassle so maybe that extra work would make sense?
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Ehm no I dont think it is. As BA placement should be extremely vital to the resulting sound. If they are mismatched by like 1mm it will affect the sound. So them rearranging the whole thing SHOULD change the sound noticeably…
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doscinco are here i listened 10 seconds, and they sound very good! no fat bass but fast bass with a good kick no bleed in the mids, mids are not warm as in the fan2 but neutral with just a little of hardness buti was listenign form a dongle, its a neutral sound very dinamic exciting and musical, a step above the warmy fan 2 (that hadn’t highs). go with them. also they are not enormous like serial so until now no problems reported.
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