Decently well, you can get a lot more out of them with a higher end amp, but it does a good enough job if you already had a plat (good punch and body, wide stage with decent depth, nice timbre, good detail, I just think you can get more out of them by going higher), but if you were looking for amp options there would most likely be other choices I prefer near that price point
The phonitor is going to be more bright analytical and the vio is going to be warmer smoother overall, generally the vio will have a larger and more spacious stage where the phonitor feels more compact and lacks some depth, timbre wise neither are super great but I would give the edge to the vio, the phonitor can eek out more resolution, the vio feels more capable when it comes to dynamics, the phonitor feels a bit tighter at times but also lacks texture at times, both are pretty impactful. Generally I personally donāt like the phonitor as much due to itās somewhat meh spatial recreation and microdynamics (I would prefer a gsx mini over a phonitor for that type of more neutral slightly brighter analytical signature)
Easily the violectric then, the phonitor will not add warmth and will be more lean and dryer. What dac are you looking to pair with the vio?
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Thanks! Thatās really helpful. I have a Bifrost 2 and an RME DAC. Thinking the BF2 might pair better? I have an A90 which covers the analytical end so was hoping for something with more color. Sounds like the 280 would be a good fit then?
Personally while I do prefer the bf2 compared to the adi 2 in most situations, I actually think the bf2 is too warmer smoother leaning to pair well with the violectric, it ends up getting too warm and smooth and lacks a bit of treble air and bite imo, so I donāt really like that combo with the vio (it is fun though but itās just a bit leaning too far, the yggy a2 does actually pair better though). The adi 2 does pair decently well but I find that combo has a bit of a dulled sound with a slightly flatter stage than normal. Personally I do really like the 2541 + v280 combo for something that leans it more neutral with a bit of warmth as it adds more treble air, adds more depth to the soundstage, and tightens up the amp overall at the expense of sounding a slight bit less dense.
If you did want to lean more colored but not overdone, if you can find a holo cyan (or spring 2) that does a pretty nice job for leaning warmer smoother without being overwhelming or sounding overpowering. A burl b2 bomber does pair well too for that job (but thatās more studio oriented). A doge dac 7 is also actually a pretty fun but not overwhelming pairing for the vio
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Had these for about 3 weeks now. B stock Leopardwoods. Very Nice. About 140 hours of burn in on them now. Listening with Auteur Hybrid Pads. Wywire Platinum cable is absolutely amazing. Headphone cable is pretty much burned in at this point. I also went a bit nuts and upgraded to a Wywires Platinum USB as well that made more difference than the headphone cable. Its still got a ways to go on burn in but really improves the sound in every area. Substantially better staging, dynamics and detail. Just more alive and involving. Both cables do this, but the USB makes a bigger difference. Just amazing how much more involving it is than my Auteur Blackwood and the midrange is almost as good with the Auteur Hybrid pads and a few peripheral tweaks. Crazy good!
I love my Blackwoods and will keep them for their musical magic, but I would much rather listen to the Leopardwoods right now.
Happy listening,
jgwtriode
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Iād throw in a Burson Soloist 3X into the list of candidates if youāre looking.
Iāve got a Burson Conductor 3XR and Iām enjoying it very much when paired to my Eikon. I previously had a modded LP for some time, and enjoyed it paired to the Ekons very much what @M0N describes but the Burson seems to be all that with a shitload more punch and body. Iām looking to potentially move to the VC in the future.
Iām hoping that a VC is going to be just an overall improvement over the Eikons. Iām not looking for a super star in any particular thing, just an improvement across the board from what the Eikon offers.
Hi I am currently using the verite closed with the verite pads and I am trying to get some more dynamic slam and energy in guitars and cymbal and drum hits. I was wondering if anyone has an eq that would match this description, I already got some vintage tubes with my pendant to get a more warm sound and it has improved the dynamics but not to the extent I was looking for. For reference I had a focal elex before these headphones, and I love the technical detail of the verite closed but the sound is definitely more casual whereas I would describe the elex as more punchy.
Welcome!
I donāt have Verites, but I have had Elex. I donāt think youāll get the Elex dynamics on the Verite through EQ. You may be able to get the signature closer, but the slam factor you mention just isnāt something that EQ can do much to change, though it could increase the low frequency quantity.
Using the Verite Closed Iād recommend the Auteur pads. Definitely more bass than the universe pads. Couldnāt tell you about the Verite pads because I donāt use them on the VC, but again, the Auteur pads add more of a V shape.
If you want a dynamic, punchy headphone, Iād also recommend the Clear.
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Hey. I got the VC with a good number of pads, including Verite pads. Frankly, Verite pads are my least favorite for a number of reasons.
If you want a bare recommendation for for slam and energy Iād try Hybrid pads. Universe hybrid or Auteur hybrid should be nice.
And @Rhodey make sure you recommend what material pad you recommend. Each material changes sound.
What pad would you recommend for hard rock/metal that has a good sense of slam? I have verite, auteur and eikon pads but im open to buying another pad if it fits what I am looking for. For the hybrid pad what material should I get it in, and should I get auteur or universe hybrid?
I think auteur pads for more bass and slam. I didnāt even like the Verite pads with the VO. I was more of a universe pad guy.
Imo, if you want hybrid, get auteur hybrid. Again, more bass/slam.
The Verite pads have a thicker backing. Making the signature a little muffled imo. Itās like some mids canāt push through enough.
On the VC I find the Auteur to offer the most slam and the universe pads to me are a little more even sounding/less V-shaped.
@kcrack i honestly donāt think the hybrid option changes too much. When I had the hybrid universe and be2 pads with the VO it was more of a comfort thing. The bigger change is in the perf and non perf options, as well as the all suede option. Plus youād think less slam with hybrid because the suede touching your skin isnāt as tight of a seal as all leather.
For the Auteur pads I have them in lambskin, which material offers the most slam and intensity? Is it worth getting another set of Auteur pads since I already have one? Also according to the zmf chart on pads the universe are more euphonic, does that mean more or less slam? For hard rock/metal is it worth trying to eq the verite closed or leave it as is? I found that the rock eq setting in itunes, has a sound signature I like more, but I am not sure about the values they are using it just gives a rough graph without q settings.
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Imo the Auteur lambskin is the best option for bass and slam. You donāt want perf lambskin on the closed and you donāt want all suede. Some may disagree, but I feel the hybrid (suede on the part that touches your face and lambskin everywhere else) is more of a comfort preference.
if you want a back up set, thatās up to you.
I believe so. Definitely more even sounding than the Auteur pads.
I personally donāt eq anymore. I enjoy the VC with auteur pads as is.
What amp and dac you using? Maybe look into tubes if you donāt have a tube amp.
Also maybe try tracks outside iTunes. Just a suggestion, but use what you feel works best for you.
I was just mentioning itunes because of the built in eq, I got a zmf pendant with some vintage tubes so I am covered there. I usually listen to music elsewhere I was just doing that because of the built in eq settings. Switching from the verite pads to auteur ones did make a noticeable difference in slam. I just want a tiny bit more, thatās why I was hoping someone could help me out with eqāing them.
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Ok cool. Glad youāre using some tubes.
Iād just mess around with them. See what eq works best for you.
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Hey guys, if anyone in the UK is considering selling their VC, please shoot me a PM. Thanks!
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Can any body compare VC with Stax L700?
so I saw these recently sell on headfiā¦ I like the purpās posted earlier in this thread but for me would much prefer a color near these:
Are there any color combos for the Verite closed similar to āLagoonā ?
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